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Adair M

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Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« on: January 27, 2015, 11:38 AM »
One of my long term goals has been to have a really nice JWP. In particular a Zuicho. I kept thinking I might stumble across one, but no luck. Last summer, I asked John Kiby if he knew of any that might be available. He said no, but Boon has a nice Kokonoe that might be available.

Well, as it turns out Boon did have a nice Kokonoe, and he was going to have Diasuko Nomoto, Boon's Senior, style it when he visited in January. And,remarkably, it is very similar to John's fantastic Kokonoe white pine. This thread http://bonsaistudygroup.com/white-pine-discussion/kokonoe-white-pine/
Details the story of John's pine.

Since this tree is also a twin trunk white pine, and also has grown white pine roots over the black pine roots, it was called "Little Brother" or "Mini-me".

Boon did not purchase these two at the same time, Mini-me was purchased two years after he aquired Big Brother, about 15 years ago.
 

Adair M

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2015, 11:55 AM »
The first thing Diasuko did was cut back and thin the tree all over.

Then, a decision: the smaller tree had a very large branch. In fact, it was the largest branch on the tree. It was in a good place, just too heavy. Diasuko recommended cutting it off. Since it was my tree, he made me do it!  We had some fun with the removed branch and trimmings!  That was pretty much the end of my active decision making. Diasuko removed other branches as he worked his was up the tree. His wiring technique is amazing. As an example, when bending a branch down from the trunk, he would bend the branch, then apply the wire as opposed to wiring then bending.
 

Adair M

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2015, 12:06 PM »
The work wasn't continuous. This was just before the BIB show, and many members had "emergency" work to be done on their trees to get them ready for the show.

When Diasuko was pruning the tree, he said he thought it was Zuicho, not Kokonoe. Zuicho has a more pointed bud, Kokonoe, more rounded. Unfortunately, John had taken his Kokonoe home so we couldn't do a direct comparison. The two cultivars are very difficult to distinguish. Diasuko continued to call it a Zuicho, so I'm going with that.

The final result is quite a change from the original bush. Now that it is wired out, we will get back budding, and it should thicken back up quickly. I hope to be able to show it in two or three years.
 

William N. Valavanis

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2015, 12:37 PM »
Based on the growth habit of last year's shoots, your tree appears to e a Zuisho Japanese five-needle pine.

Nice tree!!
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2015, 12:43 PM »
Man oh Man

What I would give to have a tree like that.

Very Nice Tree.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2015, 04:35 PM »
Cool tree Adair, not your average JWP!
 Makes me excited to see what I will do with mine.  I've decided to hold off on doing the cutback until I achieve the new planting angle. 
So it's really nice to see you getting this one off to a stellar start! 

 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2015, 04:39 PM »
Wow, killer tree! Nice end result I can't wait to see how it looks in two years.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2015, 10:17 PM »
Was always different from the Kokonoe, but not so different. Nice to see how you and Daisaku came to agreement on how to move forward. This will be fun to watch the progress over the next few years, I think you have a really interesting and beautiful tree. Was good to spend a few days with you and the cohort at Boon's.

John

( the pot you got from Daichan is for this tree?)
 

Adair M

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2015, 02:01 AM »
The one in the cabinet is.

The little round antique Japanese is for my red pine.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2015, 05:12 AM »
.............. :-X

 :o.  (Insert blasphemous expletive)

How can one not absolutely love the foilage of white pine? And this, a most wonderful specimen.

One day, a white pine will be my most expensive single bonsai purchase EVER. Of this I am sure.

Adair, I admire your dedication,  and eye for great quality. You should be a Bonsai Broker!

(Sounds of thunder echoing through a Rocky Mountain canyon)

Sorce
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2015, 07:25 AM »
Nice start!  Do you know if it has been mostly container-grown, or had some years in the ground to thicken up?
FWIW my Zuisho has done very well here in Bham over the last 8 years; better than the non-dwarf cultivars.
 

Adair M

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2015, 07:50 AM »
Brian,

Good to know Zuisho does well here in the South. That was my one reservation about acquiring the tree.

I can only speak about the last 15 years.  Boon bought the tree from a bonsai nursery in Japan 15 years ago. At that time it was about the same height as it is now. It had the smooth bark of young JWP. It has developed the rough bark over the past 15 years.

Boon says it was legally imported. He has all the paperwork.

It has been container grown since he purchased it.

For what it's worth, he was told by the nursery where he bought it that it was a Kokonoe. So that's what he thought it was.

The interesting thing is how this tree, and John's Kokonoe both were originally grafted on JBP stock, and both sent out new roots so that they are both now growing on their own roots. We will never know if this was by design or purely accidental. The trees came from two entirely different sources. The JBP roots have been removed.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2015, 05:51 PM »
The gyozan in the cabinet is very nice and should fit the tree really well.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2015, 03:14 AM »
Julian Adams has zuisho air layers. I don't know why we don't see more of them in the west. The story of the discovery of the sport by suzuki-san was in an early issue of bonsai today.
 

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Re: Zuicho JWP "Mini-me"
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2015, 06:15 AM »
One of the nice features of this tree is size of the branches. The trunk is as wide as a soda can, but the branches are mostly pencil size. This greatly aids to the illusion of size. The relatively thin branches make the trunk look larger.