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Species Specific => White Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: shimsuki on July 22, 2009, 10:08 PM

Title: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on July 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
This goyomatsu was purchased from cass bonsai gardens in march. The only thing I have done is removed a branch and wire a branch. I will be styling it this fall/winter. Suggestions are welcome, although there is not that much to style. I is about a 10 year old tree. 8 inches in height. Grafted to kuromatsu. It is nice movement in my opinion.
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: ken duncan on July 23, 2009, 06:56 AM
Shimsuki,
I like this little Pine, it should make a great Bonsai with time in a pot.
Ken
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: Jeff Lahr on July 23, 2009, 09:18 AM
Are you planning on doing some needle plucking this fall?
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on July 23, 2009, 12:43 PM
I am told that goyomatsus bleed a lot, so no. But I heard of a technique where you cut the needles and they will eventually fall off, has anybody done this???
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: John Kirby on July 23, 2009, 04:46 PM
Cut them to reduce the last years needles, the older needles should turn yellow and fall of this fall. John
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on September 08, 2009, 05:08 PM
The possible new front.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: King Kong on September 08, 2009, 07:50 PM
This is a white pine?

__gary
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: John Kirby on September 08, 2009, 09:08 PM
Yeah, P parvifolia (sic, parviflora), not the strobus we know and love in the eastern parts of North America. This was grafted on to JBP wired, and shipped. We used to import lots of them from Korea before the 2002 law change.

John
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: King Kong on September 08, 2009, 10:46 PM
10-4
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on September 12, 2009, 04:41 PM
I am going to put this into a grow pot this spring to thicken the trunk. The very top branch that sticks out will become my sacrifice branch.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: John Kirby on September 12, 2009, 05:06 PM
Why? It can be a very nice  little shohin as it is. If you put it in the ground, the JBP base will thicken rapidly and give you a nasty base to top boundary. It can be wired, styled and maintained as a nice shohinnwith just a little work.

John
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on September 12, 2009, 05:20 PM
Why? It can be a very nice  little shohin as it is. If you put it in the ground, the JBP base will thicken rapidly and give you a nasty base to top boundary. It can be wired, styled and maintained as a nice shohinnwith just a little work.

John

John,
Thanks for the reply. I might just do that. It will defiantly be wired this winter. I am just concerned it might be a little to thin.
Shimsuki
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: John Kirby on September 12, 2009, 09:54 PM
Make it as short as you can, that will make it look thicker. John
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: noissee on September 14, 2009, 08:32 PM
I am no pine expert, but I definitely think a thin trunk is better than an unsightly graft.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on February 20, 2010, 06:43 PM
Update:
Repotted today into sara rayner pot.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on February 20, 2010, 06:44 PM
My photo does not do the tree justice. The tree looks much better in person. I do need to wire the branch on the left down a little.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: roelex14 on February 23, 2010, 03:16 PM
this is a great little tree!
how much did u initially pay for it at Cass? (if i may ask)
I've been lookin for a good shohin pine for a while now and cass is about 2 hours from me and if they have some reasonable prices i'm willing to make the drive!
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: bwaynef on February 23, 2010, 03:34 PM
When are you going to wire this one?  I like it.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: Jay on February 23, 2010, 04:06 PM
Roelex,
Reasonable price is in the eyes of the beholder. But remember, a tree that has been developed, possible worked on for years, does not come cheap. To quote an old saying "You get what you pay for".

I know, some may feel they get better prices here or there but, generally speaking, a trustworthy seller is the best way to go. AND remember, most Bonsai Nurseries and professionals are not getting rich. It is a good thing to help support these nurseries and keep them in business.

An other old saying the best way to make a small fortune selling Bonsai is to..... start with a large fortune!

my 2 cents
J
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on February 23, 2010, 05:49 PM
When are you going to wire this one?  I like it.
I will wire this fall. I also need to learn about needle work on white pines. I know many say you are not supposed to on a pluck needles on a white pine, but I have read that kimura and many others pluck them in Japan. I need to learn more before I do anything concerning the needles though.

Shimsuki
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on February 23, 2010, 05:50 PM
this is a great little tree!
how much did u initially pay for it at Cass? (if i may ask)
I've been lookin for a good shohin pine for a while now and cass is about 2 hours from me and if they have some reasonable prices i'm willing to make the drive!

I dont remember excatly, but I think about $350 (a year ago). This and a batch of larger ones are Japan imports.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: JRob on February 23, 2010, 08:39 PM
Son,

Just to set the record straight - it was a gift. You did not pay anything for this tree, I did. Being a senior in high school student - I fund our collection and our passion for trees (for the most part).

Shimsuki became interested in bonsai after a visit to the Missouri Botanical Garden's Japanese Festival and viewing the Bonsai display in the fall of 2008. It was there that I bought him his first tree, a specimen Buxus microphylla 'Compacta' (Kingsville Boxwood) from Cass Bonsai. It was a reward for a flute competition he did really well in. Today he is co-principle flute for the St. Louis Symphony Youth Orchestra (He won their concerto competition this year and will play Mozart's Flute Concerto No 1 in G major on the stage at Powell Hall in May!). We attended our first meeting of the Bonsai Society of Greater St. Louis in the fall of 2008 and when we introduced ourselves I joked that I was his driver, manager and banker and along for the ride and that it was he who had an interest in 'the little trees'. Together we have since both developed a real love of bonsai. I have always made it a point to become involved in my sons' interests because I firmly believe it develops a close bond between a father and his sons if they can share common interests. My goal was to develop a respectable shohin collection and we are well on our way. We are actively involved in our club and we attend seminars, classes and workshops as frequently as our schedules permit. We have safely gone through our second winter and have yet to lose a tree. We study a lot but have have much to learn. We are having a great time together and appreciate the knowledge of bonsai that this forum shares to aid us on our journey.

JRob

 
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: John Kirby on February 23, 2010, 09:29 PM
Jrob,
Congratulations. You guys are doing great. I think the sky is the limit as you continue to progress through this fun and challenging preoccupation.

John
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: shimsuki on July 08, 2010, 05:38 PM
A photo update, the tree will be wired this fall. It is in a sara rayner pot.


Shim
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: JRob on August 03, 2010, 08:50 PM
Here a photo from tonight.

JRob
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: roelex14 on August 04, 2010, 05:23 PM
looks great
good choice of pot
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: jersanct on December 16, 2010, 10:39 PM
Has this one been wired yet?  Really like the last photo, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: Sorce on May 04, 2014, 06:17 AM
Shim.... ;D. You should hire out to play at exhibitions!

Update STL.

Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: Herman on May 08, 2014, 02:31 AM
sweet little white pine  ;D

Kind regards
Herman
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: JRob on May 08, 2014, 08:57 PM
This little guy was donated to a club auction and we no longer have so I can not update. JRob
Title: Re: Shohin Goyomatsu
Post by: Sorce on May 09, 2014, 03:42 AM
 :-\ thank you!