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Owen Reich

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Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« on: August 29, 2015, 05:51 PM »
Nice white pine that hadn't been styled in a number of years.

Tree was repotted in April of 2014 into a free-draining mix of medium grain size Akadama, Lava, and Pumice.

The bottom half of the design was pretty straight-forward.  The real trick was balancing vigor of the bottom half with the top long-term. Keeping the bottom half more full is one solution as I did with this one.

Top half needed a number of compression bends and corrective pruning.
 
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Leo in NE Illinois

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2015, 06:14 PM »
Wow, nice developed trunk. Clearly this tree has some age. Nice, I would love to have material like this to work on.

My comments follow with the understanding that I am looking at a photo, and the photo could be misleading. If what I suggest doesn't make sense, ignore me and chalk it up to not being able to see the tree in person.

The problem I see is you have 2 separate trees.
The cascading branch has some nice bends and movement to its flow, nice informal feel.

The second branch on up to the apex is very linear, all the branches give the impression of being straight, almost formal upright.

The two together do not create a unified image in my mind, like 2 separate trees.

I have no clue what to do, as with material already this old, you don't just cut off the top, or just cut off the cascading branch without very careful deliberation.

But am I seeing this right? or am I off base?
 

Owen Reich

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2015, 08:08 PM »
Nice white pine that hadn't been styled in a number of years.

The real trick was balancing vigor of the bottom half with the top long-term. Keeping the bottom half more full is one solution as I did with this one.

Top half needed a number of compression bends and corrective pruning.

The three statements above allude to the long-term plan.  It's a good question though. 

Given that it had been so long since the tree was styled, it was necessary to thin the top back to small branches and angle them to fill out radially.  Unfortunately I don't have a photo from above of the apex, but I think that would be helpful.  I'll work on that this Fall. 

The upper branches were bent in such a way to be sustainable close to the trunk proper and the foliage arranged in a more static manner short term for maximum sun exposure.  Over time, shoots will rise / multiply and the branches will be guy wired down (many of the straight looking ones). 

Don't quote me on this, but I think the tree was last styled in 2007 or 2008.  The thought of cutting off the top would likely aesthetically devalue this tree a great deal.  Will it happen one day?  Maybe.  However, the abrupt angle changes on the right side of the root system combined with an apical annihilation would look rough IMO.

Again, good question.  If you look at many of the trees coming out of Kouka-en via Bjorn's, Naoki Maeoka's, and my publications, it is part of our m.o. to compact the apex of many conifer species so that it is more sustainable (as opposed to the Trump comb-over or a billowy apex that requires the tree to get bigger overall).

Please comment if that doesn't clarify the matter.

 

Adair M

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2015, 10:59 PM »
Owen, is this grafted on JBP roots?  Or growing on its own?
 

Owen Reich

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 01:48 AM »
Adair, not sure but will find out.  It if was, it was done low and a long time ago. 
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 09:05 AM »
First picture looks like it, but hard to tell with the limited relative barking on the roots. Like Zuisho I understand that Kokonoe will root from cuttings and air layers. Nice tree.
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2015, 02:23 PM »
Owen's been a busy guy... ;D
I like the trunk very much, and am happy that you are showing so much of it in your styling. 
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2015, 02:26 PM »
I wanted to add (but for some reason can't modify my post) that I wonder if just deleting the very top of the apex would help with the overall feel of the tree.
 

Owen Reich

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2015, 01:05 AM »
Judy, I'm not opposed to taking off part of the top.  However, if that was done, I'm afraid even with carefully placed pads to recreate the apex, the foliage layout would look like a cell phone signal:
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One way to avoid this would be to drop / grow the right side of the tree's canopy down much lower.  That to me, would allow for the shortening of the apex Judy is suggesting.

Balancing the two line cascade style is not the easiest thing to do, so I'd like to allow the tree a year of candle shortening and periodic thinning over the next 2-3 years before I'd consider it "ready".

This tree is also an exercise in technical prowess by the original creator.  Just look at the taper of the upper trunk. 
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2015, 08:11 AM »
Thanks Owen, for posting this tree, it is a good looking project, and the trunk is awesome.
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2015, 01:22 PM »
An amazing tree!! Such a stately yet elegant image!! A simple two dimensional photo does this tree no service.

It surely has a "presence" about it.

 :P :P :P :P.......tongue wagging, bit  of drool...... 8)
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2015, 11:46 PM »
you are right about the dramatic taper toward the apex, that is very well done.

As I look at it again, I am more inclined to agree with you about keeping the apex. It is a beautiful tree as is.
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2015, 08:07 AM »
Owen

Great material and great tree.

Good luck and watching how this progresses.
 

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Re: Semi-cascade Kokonoe White Pine
« Reply #13 on: September 19, 2015, 01:52 PM »
Very nice!

My thoughts on the apex, are that it could actually fill out a bit to the sides. More broad... in the future anyway.