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John Kirby

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2013, 07:00 PM »
So, 4 years later. Repotted this tree with Boon in April 2012.  Thd tree wentback into its original 32" shallow old Tokoname pot it was in when I purchased it in 2005. In 2006 I had repotted it in to a 42+" deeper pot to get it healthy again. As expected the repotting knocked it back, slowing it down. Further, in February thr polyhouse I keep my conifers in collapsed during an almost 4' snow. Being trapped under the snow weakened the two back trunks and they failed to produce new buds. As the tree had 10 trunks, previously one died right after I purchased it, we decided to remove the two dying trunks and one more to make it a 7 trunk root connected tree. Akio spent 3 days on this tree, the first trunk to the left required two 4 gauge copper wires- and guy wires and a brace to get it right. Anyway, first styling done. First picture, Akio sizing up a 2 meter wide tree and the second is three days later, about 5 feet wide and ready to grow on.
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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2013, 07:03 PM »
wow... just ...wow...
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2013, 08:14 PM »
I a am off by 5-10 degrees of the front, will try and get a better picture head on from the front. It was on the phone and I didn't notice until seeing it on the bigger screen.
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #18 on: August 26, 2013, 08:53 PM »
I'm with Judy. Wow. Such a large specimen but very well done.
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2013, 09:02 PM »
John,

That's going to be a great one when it fills in!

Judy, you should see the trees that John keeps at Boon's!  Incredible trees. I was lucky enough to work on one at my last Intensive.  He has some shohin that are so dense that you can't even see the trunk, and yet they're fully wired!  Kind of like a ship in a bottle.
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2013, 09:07 PM »
In a first styling like this, is the wiring primarily there to set branch angles and allow for light penetration?  Or is it wired sparsely, not just because of a lack of ramification but also in consideration of the health of the tree?
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2013, 08:17 AM »
Wayne,
Good questions. I think the goal of the first styling is to set the general pattern for the tree. That is, place the branches in position to support the development of the foliage pads, to get the trunks positioned (in the case of multiple trees or trunks) and to set the outer limits of the design. The general hope is as the tree grows you will be able to shorten some branches and lat others grow into the desired silhouette and with adequate branch density. The amount of wire on this tree is more than one might think, probably 4+ kilos, there is a kilo of #4 alone, Gremel is going to enjoy the reorder. The final piece is that once the tree was completed, it was fertilized heavily, I had been feeding it moderately to keep the needles a little shorter than they like to be when growth is unfettered. We really put the fertilizer on when done, I use organic fertilizer (yes, Al with Humate!) and will keep adding fertilizer until the trees go to sleep in late November-Early December.

I spent the better part of 9 full days with Akio and trees. I spent a good deal of that time doing what I believe is the most difficult part of tree design, at least for me- selecting and pruning branches to make the design happen. Notice all of the JBP branches near Akio in the first picture, prep work on trees to be wired this winter. I spent last weekend pruning a group of 8-9 year old JB pines for shohin (about 100) and reworking and pruning about 40 old box woods, getting them ready for spring repotting. Next weekend, I have a group of about 100 6-7 year Scots Pines for shohin to prepare, spending a vacation week on branch selection was a good prep for this work.
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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2013, 11:18 AM »
Wow is right, what a unique and beautiful tree John!
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2013, 01:05 PM »
John,

I know this tree wasn't wired before Akio wired it. What is the proper protocall if it had been wired?  Should one leave the wire on, and have the Professional remove it?  Or should it be removed so that the professional doesn't have to spend his time removing old wire?
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2013, 07:16 PM »
Adair,

This tree was wired many times in its past. However, as you note, the tree did not have wire on it when work started. With the professional, time is money, so do what you have to do to be ready for them. A tree like this wired could take  day to desire, so I would remove the wire. When I work with Akio, Daisaku or Boon, I remove the wire before they get their hands on a tree. Hope that helps.
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2013, 08:02 PM »
What are the ribbons for?
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2013, 08:08 PM »
John,

That helps a lot. 

The first surprise I had at my first Intensive is how to unwire.  I had been doing it wrong.  In fact, whenever I teach my classes, everyone tells me that they had always been taught to cut the wire off.  I tell them, that's the way I had been taught, too, but Boon's way is better.
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2013, 08:39 PM »
John,

That helps a lot. 

The first surprise I had at my first Intensive is how to unwire.  I had been doing it wrong.  In fact, whenever I teach my classes, everyone tells me that they had always been taught to cut the wire off.  I tell them, that's the way I had been taught, too, but Boon's way is better.


What is boons way for us that don't know? Unwinding the wire?
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2013, 10:04 PM »
So , if you wind the wire on correctly it can be twisted off easily by grabbing the end of the wire with pliers. Works great.

Wayne, you asked the $10 question. The tree needs a few grafts next winter (7 to be precise). The green tape was Akios way of marking strong buds to be cut off and used for grafting .
 

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Re: Root connected JWP
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2013, 11:23 AM »
Love it! Looking very good, excited to continue seeing the development.