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bwaynef

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Re: Progress
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 08:50 PM »
Made small adjustments.
You don't have to do anything to please me, but that's a lot closer to what I was thinking when I made my previous comment.  I think you can probably get those branches down a bit further, but that's a big improvement.
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 11:30 PM »
Thank you bwaynef! I hope its a big improvement. I tried lowering them, but the wire rips. Any suggestions to my slanting question?
 

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« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2014, 12:39 AM »
I think this tree will be special.


 Do you see the face?
 

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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2014, 08:09 AM »
I would still like to know if the main trunk of the tree is going away from the chosen front?  If so, then I'd like to see the other side of the tree... And you still need to get in and wire each foliage tuft and branchlet as well as the main branches so you can get the foliage to spread out, then up.  I would look for a workshop to take this tree to, I think it's going to be the best thing you can do for yourself and the tree. Even if it means waiting a while.  Just my opinion...
 

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2014, 08:21 PM »
Judy, you are correct, we are looking at the back of the tree.

Sorce, you sure you don't live in Colorado? i was going to ask what you are smoking.....

B.Engineer, there is a lot to be gained by interacting with someone with more experience on a tree like this. If they have a BYOT at Maba in Jersey the end of April, it might be a good get away from studying for finals Afternoon to take a workshop! I have always told the students who took my classes that if you haven't kept up over the semester , there is no way they could cram it all in over the last night or weekend. I usually told them to go see a movie. A bonsai workshop would be even better.
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2014, 08:56 PM »
Yes Judy, the main trunk is going away from the chosen front.

John, why is that considered the back of the tree? I was lucky to get a response from someone at the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens so hopefully it will be a good place to begin. I will snap more pictures for you guys. In addition, can you give me more information about the BYOT at Maba. I couldn't find anything when I searched.
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #21 on: January 02, 2014, 09:18 PM »
B.Engineer I believe it is mabs... Mid Atlantic bonsai society's spring festival. It is a weekend long event with three bonsai masters. Usually one from Japan, one from uk, and one from US. There ar demos and workshops. More info can be found on there website.
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #22 on: January 02, 2014, 09:19 PM »
 

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2014, 06:50 AM »
Yes MABS, not the August show in Chicago.

Why is this the back of the tree? Because the tree is going away from the viewer.  Think of it as when the tree faces you it bows towards you. These little Miyajima Grafts are purpose made for bonsai. While they frequently have faulty, swollen, grafts the do have good low movement and are set up for branch selection and styling. The folks who produce these/sell these may have a range from 6-8" tall to 3' or more.

Miyajima is a very nice and hardy cultivar. If the view of the tree is an optical illusion, that the tree isn't growing away, this was Judy's question, could you show us post wiring side shits and from the opposite side from your current front? Or show them anyway .

John
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2014, 11:01 AM »
Um, those would be shots, guess I need to turn autocorrect back on ........
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2014, 12:26 PM »
Thank you Frank and John, I will look into it.

Here are the photos I promised
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2014, 12:27 PM »
More photos...
 

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2014, 01:00 PM »
Ok great, thanks for the photos.  Yes you are indeed using the back of the tree as it was grown and intended for your front.  You'll want to re-asses the wiring that you've done so far, and maybe even think about cutting it off to start over.(except the guy wires, they are prob. ok positions)  Since you are using alum. you may be able to just re orient the bends.  Since you are keeping it outside for the winter, other than removing the wire, I think I would let it rest for the winter, as you've already done some bending.  
When you get back into the tree to wire it, you'll want to pull every branch forward and down.  Some of the branches are in great placements to help you hide the transition from the lower trunk to the top part.  And they look young enough to be flexible too.  

Now that you can look at the front of the tree, you'll have more options. However if you truly want to use the side you have picked as your front, you could take the upper section and continue the twist around to move the entire top part toward the "front".  It would be a big bend, but could work.  I do like the bark and the trunk presentation from your chosen front better, but you'd have to do that bend to make it possible to keep as the front.

 I still think this is a perfect tree for the right workshop. You'll learn so much...
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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2014, 08:17 AM »
Look closer. It looks like a mudman, with the foo man chu.

Ready for my dollface?   

I would love to live in Colorado, Rocky Mountain High collecting!

He is looking to the front right corner, quite like me. Note the dots for eyes and nose and black line of mustache

After seeing this tree from the side, it looks like the pads can be more compacted to give a tighter 3D image.
 

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Re: Progress
« Reply #29 on: January 05, 2014, 10:04 AM »
Now you can say there is a face on the back of the tree, then wink.