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Species Specific => White Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: bwaynef on March 05, 2012, 09:55 PM

Title: My first JWP
Post by: bwaynef on March 05, 2012, 09:55 PM
Let me be clear: I have little hope that this tree will ever be displayed.  That said, once healthy, I'm sure this tree can teach me about the care of JWP.  (Point out why not if that's the case.)  Would anyone care to give me some pointers or a step-by-step plan?  I'm all ears.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: MatsuBonsai on March 05, 2012, 10:09 PM
Looks like a good learner tree for sure.  Any idea of the cultivar?  I'm assuming graft? 

I would likely repot first if it were mine.  Feed the crap out of it see if/how much it will back bud.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: bwaynef on March 06, 2012, 08:17 PM
So, about that JWP.  I've been told its a (n Italian?) Stone Pine, Pinus pinea.  That changes things...
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: tanlu on March 06, 2012, 08:48 PM
That's an interesting tree, but certainly not a JWP. Check the needle clusters and see if there are 2, 3, or 5. IMO, it barely looks like a pine at all.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: Kajukid on March 06, 2012, 09:53 PM
Theres a lot of dead needles on it. I would repot it and let it get healthy first before doing anything to it. Bare root half the tree and put it in some good soil.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: nathanbs on March 07, 2012, 12:59 PM
I agree that it looks like an Italian stone pine. They back bud very well if it is one.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: Steven on March 07, 2012, 10:51 PM
This was one of many trees I left behind in SC. Just couldn't take them all with me. It is a Stone Pine. It was sold at a Home Depot as a Christmas decoration. These pines have 2 types of needles. Immature, spruce-like foliage and mature pine needles in bundles of 2. You can see a few here and there in Wayne's pic. It is in a open mix but does need a repot.
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: Chrisl on March 08, 2012, 08:56 AM
I have one as well that I got after the Xmas holiday for $10.  I've done one styling to it, shaping it like a Atlas Cedar.  Now it's on the bench for 2 yrs to recover.  Interesting in working with this pine's needles. 
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: Intriguedbybonsai on March 14, 2012, 02:22 AM
Hey I have an ISP (Italian Stone Pine) that I got around Christmas myself. I trimmed it, and it looks similar to Wayne's. When Nathan says they "back bud" very well, what does that mean exactly?
Title: Re: My first JWP
Post by: nathanbs on March 14, 2012, 06:33 PM
if you chop or cut it shorter whether it be branches or trunk you will likely get new buds emerging out of old wood. Make sure to never cut below the lowest bud as conifers need the foliage to keep the sap flowing until the new buds emerge and establish. There is the rare opportunity/occasion to completely defoliate a pine and new buds will still emerge. The timing, climate and health of the tree all play a huge role in this being successful