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Judy

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #30 on: April 29, 2014, 09:47 AM »
Thanks Adair, There are only a few that extended like the one shown, most were more compacted.  So shouldn't be too much trouble, as most were in the apex portions, and that is budding quite a bit.

No problem Herman, good questions to ask.
 

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« Reply #31 on: April 29, 2014, 12:22 PM »
I'm not Adair, and I'm not sure when backbudding happens, but as far as I understand we don't fert between when candles start to push until they harden off to keep the new growth from getting too leggy - the fert can lengthen internodes.
 

Adair M

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« Reply #32 on: April 29, 2014, 01:02 PM »
That's right, hold off the fert until mid summer.
 

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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2014, 04:24 PM »
Did some work on this tree today, cut off a branch that has been bothering me for a long time, the lower left branch.  It always was going to read as a bar branch, and I couldn't look at it anymore.  So I cut off the forward sections and left the back portion of that branch.  I think it doesn't read as a bar anymore, but will take off the rest if I see it still looks that way.  I did a good bit of wiring, got about 1/3 left to do.  But a good start, and the tree was instantly better after cutting off that branch. 
First pic after the tree was unwired a few weeks ago, then just after I cut the branch off.  Last two are after some wiring. 
I like this tree again now...
 

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« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2014, 12:40 AM »
Damn!  :o

What deciduous trees! This and the angle changer are fantastic!
Bark,trunk.....foilage!

It looks good without that branch, and if you get the rest (above it)down some, it could(should) be fully removed.

Wow. Bark!

I love the pot, but not for this guy.

Sorce

 

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #35 on: December 07, 2014, 09:47 AM »
Nicely done Judy, very good move! 
 

John Kirby

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #36 on: December 07, 2014, 09:54 AM »
Nice job Judy. Looks like the next order of business is to repot in the spring. Miyajima can become very dense and highly ramified over a fairly short period of time. In your climate you canbuild strength by fertilizing early and controlling uniformity of growth with sequential candle breaking/pinching.
 

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #37 on: December 07, 2014, 10:27 AM »
Great progress!
 

Judy

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« Reply #38 on: December 07, 2014, 12:46 PM »
Yes repot definitely.  I think into this pot again.  In person it suits the tree so far.  Maybe when it's further along, I'll look for something else.  What type of pot would you see this in?  

I think that the remainder of the branch stays for now, unless it reads as a problem still.  With the back angle does it seem to read badly now?  

Thanks for taking the time to comment!

I'll post pics again after I finish the wiring.
 

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #39 on: December 07, 2014, 07:26 PM »
Not finished but almost, still have the apex to go.
 

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2014, 12:14 AM »
Love this tree.

Well done Judy.  Looking good.  You are definitely on the right track.
 

Judy

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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2015, 02:06 PM »
Thought I'd update this with some current pictures.  This is a new container for the tree built for it by Randy Doughty.  It's a really perfect fit for the tree, and shows it off much better than the old pot.  Did a bit of wiring as well...it's coming along.
 

Owen Reich

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« Reply #42 on: August 30, 2015, 02:06 AM »
How do you feel about the direction of IMG3902 above?  Seems like the planting angle and front solves a lot of structural issues with the design and has more depth.
 

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« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2015, 05:28 AM »
A couple of comments please if you will allow me.

The final planting looks like it brought the low branch that you bent and lowered back up? :-\

In an earlier back photo it looked as if there are 3 branches that were all emerging at the same level? ???  Very uncomfortable I see this and in my case find a way to get rid of 2 of them. :(

If removing a lower branch and leaving a seeming void I find a way to bring down or around branching from another keeper branch.

A nice trunk/foundation you have to work with. 8)  
 

Adair M

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2015, 08:33 AM »
Owen, It's really hard to pick a front from photos. I always have to set it on a turn table.

That said, I do see what you like about IMG3902, but wouldn't that make the trunk pigeon breasted? 

As an aside, this tree gives us an opportunity to discuss styling...  Judy's current styling is the way a lot of (most?) Americans would style a slant. The trunk leans left, and the first branch, the key branch, comes back to the right. So, that it is "balanced". 

On the other hand, the Japanese style would be more like what Owen has suggested, and develop the key branch to extend to the left. The trunk leans left, the key branch should be to the left, under the concept that whatever environmental influences that caused the trunk to lean would also favor the key branch to grow in the same direction as the trunk.

I'm not going to say that one way is right and the other wrong, just point out the difference.