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Chrisl

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Re: JWP2
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2013, 08:15 AM »
Found it Judy, it's from Jan/Feb of 2012.
 

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« Reply #16 on: August 25, 2013, 12:02 PM »
Just thought I would post an update after work done on this tree.  Worked with Owen Reich on this during a workshop and then a work day after.  Thanks Owen!
I think it looks good, and the foundation for a better tree is set.

 

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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2013, 07:30 PM »
Contrasting the first pictures you posted with the last ones, its easy to see the differences.  Can you discuss the work that was done to bring it to this stage from the previous pictures?
 

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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 09:08 PM »
The very first pics were as I received the tree,  I did branch selection and did rough shaping and a wiring in feb.  These are the second pics.  I took the wire off in July, as it was cutting in, and I knew I wanted to take it to the workshop with Owen.  As mentioned I always wanted to lower the bottom right branch, but needed help with that.  A new front and angle was chosen during the workshop. I bought some large gauges of copper, but not ever having used copper before, I didn't know how stiff this particular wire was.  It seemed hard to me, but didn't have any comparison.   Owen was able to place ( with difficulty, because of the wire stiffness) the wire around the two lowest branches, and had me do the smaller wiring during the workshop.  The following day, he placed a guy wire, and pulled that branch down.  Then Owen detail wired and shaped the tree.  The difference is certainly striking, and I'm really pleased with the progress.  Owen makes it all look so easy, but he's easy to learn from too. :)
 

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« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2013, 12:34 AM »
Judy,

Get some of Jim Gremel's wire. I bought some of every gauge he sells 16 gauge and larger. I didn't need any smaller gauges since I mostly do JBP and 16 is as small as I go. I have some smaller gauge wire that I occasionally use on other trees. But I find I use a lot of 16 and 14 gauge, so I bought two rolls each.

On that "other" forum, someone posted a Peter Tea blog showing the little hook used to control the tips of the buds. That little touch really makes for a professional looking wiring job.
 

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« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2013, 08:46 AM »
Thanks Adair, that is the plan.  Good to know which ones get more use! 
 

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« Reply #21 on: August 26, 2013, 04:00 PM »
Once we have copper for guy wires and fine wire, the tips will be better oriented and the middle left branch shortened and dropped lower.  Judy's aluminum wiring skills noticeably improved over the course of two days  :).
 

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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2014, 11:22 PM »
This tree is going crazy with the pollen cones this year.  I've never in my life seen as many on one tree.  I don't know what it means or the best time to knock them off.  It's almost like it has purple flowers all over it.  I'm afraid to knock them off and damage the new growth, as it's pretty flexible right now, but they are swelling and will get them soon. Maybe I can get a quick shot tomorrow.  Anyone seen a tree with 10 or more pollen cones on each and every candle? 
 

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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2014, 11:40 PM »
This tree is going crazy with the pollen cones this year.  I've never in my life seen as many on one tree.  I don't know what it means or the best time to knock them off.  It's almost like it has purple flowers all over it.  I'm afraid to knock them off and damage the new growth, as it's pretty flexible right now, but they are swelling and will get them soon. Maybe I can get a quick shot tomorrow.  Anyone seen a tree with 10 or more pollen cones on each and every candle? 

Yes, it seems to happen from time to time with all pines.

On another forum I read that trees do this when they feel threatened. You haven't been cussing at it, shaking it, or pointing a gun at it have you, Judy?  ???
 

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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2014, 08:41 AM »
No unusual treatment here, and my other JWP, that normally has moderate amounts on it, has zero this year.  Same treatment for both.  Although this tree may be due for a repot, I was holding off till next year.  It takes a bit of time to water it, but it seems plenty vigorous.  Here are some pics, and one of the new spur after I pulled the cones off, I wonder what will happen on the long bare spot the cones were. I've just never seen them crowd the candle like this.
 

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2014, 02:18 AM »
Hi Judy :)

Maybe it is to do with when the tree was wired and the cold winter you guys were having? Might just stress the tree enough ? Pure speculation though. If the tree is vigorous it may push other buds from the base of those candles with the cones on them.

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« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2014, 04:27 AM »
Hey Judy, enjoying the thaw!?

   Don't all conifers have some years of intense coning?

All the spruces by me have 3 times last years cones. Female of course, but this aint Texas!
Males would too then correct?
 

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« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2014, 08:17 AM »
Hi Herman, Sorce,
Could be the wiring, but who knows?  I've had a couple people tell me that they have had more than normal amounts as well. 
As long as it's not harmful, and I've had them be numerous (although not to this extent) on my other JWP, and as long as I pop them off, I don't worry. 
Sorce, these are pollen cones, not pine cones.  They extend and open up and produce clouds of pollen. 
 

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« Reply #28 on: April 29, 2014, 08:49 AM »
Judy,

The only "issue" you will have is longer internodes.  That area below the first needles is barren of buds.  Hopefully you're seeing lots of backbudding.  You will likely have to cut back to some of those backbuds in a year or two.
 

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« Reply #29 on: April 29, 2014, 09:10 AM »
Hi Judy,

sorry for Hijacking your thread and taking the attention away from your beautiful white pine, I just want to ask Adair a few questions


Hi Adair,

on the topic of backbudding on white pines, when do they generally backbud? in spring when growth starts, or in the later half of summer as they start to make buds for the follwing spring? is this why we generally fertilize after the new needles has hardened off, so that all the nutrients from fertilizing goes into bud production? I'm just trying to affirm what observations i've made from watching mine grow. Last question; considering white pines, how healthy does a tree need to be to backbud on very old wood and how do we get it healthy enough to backbud?

best regards
Herman