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october

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Japanese White Pine
« on: July 10, 2012, 05:34 PM »
Hello all.. Just a few shots of my japanese white pine. The needles have just opened. Please ignore the pot. The tree was put in this oversized pot last fall for healthy reasons. The tree was not doing well and using this pot as an emergency pot has done the tree a world of good.

It has a lot of character for a small tree. It is about 12 inches tall with about a 3 1/2 inch base.

Comments always welcome.

p.s. John K, hope you like this pine as much as the spruce... ;D


Rob

 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2012, 08:52 PM »
Very sweet. Miyajima?
 

october

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2012, 09:10 PM »
Thanks John..Not sure..I know that it is an import from Japan. However, I do not know from where. I have worked with this pine for almost 2 years. I rewired it, repotted it, reduced the branches and cut the top of the tree off for a tighter apex. Also, working on the ramification.

I have tilted the tree away away from the viewer upon the repot. The original planting angle had this tree with the whole top half completely leaning over towards the viewer. Kind of just a trunk with a big mushroom top. Also, it looked like the branches were bar branches. By tilting it back, it exposed the beautiful trunk of the tree and made the branches look more uniform and ladder like.

Rob
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 09:00 AM »
I can't decide if its an improvement, but have you ever considered planting it a little more upright?
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 12:09 PM »
I guess I would look at the structure and lean it back forward a bit, this would hide the trunk transition after the graft point. It does look like Miyajima. I believe the mother plant lives in Nagoya.
 

october

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 02:58 PM »
Hi John.. It might be a case of one or the other.. Tilting it forward again may hide the graft a bit. However, it will had a bad bar branch problem. Maybe, growing a small foliage pad in that area might hide the graft. Then the current angle could be kept.. We'll see.

Hello bwaynef..I believe I tiried a more upright angle a year or so ago.. However, upon your suggestion, I decided to go out and give it another try. I think I agree with you. A slight tilt to a more upright position might make this tree even better. The tree will be repotted in a little less than 2 years. Lots to consider.. :D

Rob
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 03:37 PM »
Hello bwaynef ... I think I agree with you.

I'm not sure I agree with myself, so its nice to have someone to agree with!  I trust you'll do right by the tree.

Any reason you can recall as to its current positioning in the pot?
 

october

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 05:47 PM »
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Any reason you can recall as to its current positioning in the pot?
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If I understand your question correctly... This position was the angle it was originally planted on. I tilted the tree back from the viewer, but kept the slant style angle. It might be a case of when it was in Japan, someone just roughly styled the tree as it was in the pot.

Here is a pic of the tree as purchased. This pic was after I removed the wire.

Rob
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 07:10 PM »
I'd tilt for a more vertical stance and tilt a little more forward; hard to tell from the photo.  The vertical tilt will make it easier to bend the lowest branch next time you wire. Giving that branch movement now while it is thin will make or break the design IMO.  Nice tree though.  The apex looks to have the "right stuff" for future development and ideal proportions. 
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2012, 03:24 PM »
Thanks Owen,, That first branch is an illussion.. it is a thick, straight, short branch. I might pull it down some. However, the chances of gettigng actually movement in it arent really good. not a big deal because it is partially hidden by the foliage pad. The tree is not a big tree. That branch, the main part, is maybe 4 inches long.

Rob
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2012, 08:33 PM »
Nice, Rob, I guess I don't really worry about bar branches up in the canopy, angles  and foliage pads can mask that. Regardless of the conversation, you have a very nice tree here. What else you going to show us?
 

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Re: Japanese White Pine
« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2012, 09:59 PM »
Hi John..Posted another white pine in this section ;D