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Kajukid

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cutting down a white pine??????
« on: August 26, 2011, 12:59 PM »
okay so my neighbor has this White pine she has been growing for about 20 years in a wooden 15 gallon pot and the pine is about 15 tall....she kind of just let it go, i dont know if she waters it anymore, but anyways, back to my question....im new to bonsai and to pine...i love pine trees, black, white, red, mugo whatever....i was wondering is it possible that i cut the tree down to about 2 feet, and it will survie??? can someone help me please???
 

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2011, 02:15 PM »
File this one away 'cause you'll refer back to it if you continue with bonsai:

Always leave foliage when pruning conifers.

It'd help to see a picture, but now's not really the best time to chop a pine (at least in my climate), and survival will depend on how much foliage is left.
 

Kajukid

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2011, 03:02 PM »
yeah sorry i should of put a pic on it...was thinkin that far lol...i live in california and im not taking about choppin it down anytime soon..but when would be a good time to chop them?..after looking at the tree again, i think i would like to cut it about 4 feet from the base of the trunk.....
 

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2011, 03:02 PM »
another one
 

tanlu

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2011, 09:15 PM »
It doesn't look like you any foliage in the lower trunk to support a trunk chop. Even if there was, there is zero taper, and no movement, thus no bonsai future. Just purchase a tree with more promise.
 

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2011, 09:38 PM »
Ok, so I am new to this and I understand the no taper or no movement in the base of the tree.  I can't tell from the picture, but if there is some movement in the upper trunk, would you be able to air layer a tree this big? Would some experts please advise as to what size is too small or too big to air layer?  Thanks.
 

tanlu

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2011, 10:20 PM »
What kind of white pine is that? The needles look like they're from eastern white pine, but the bark on the lower trunk looks different. Eastern White Pines generally don't make good bonsai unless you find some of those naturally stunted ones up near Canada.
 

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2011, 05:48 PM »
Well, the options could be limited. The first thing te tree needs is to be pumped up and made actively growing and healthy- regardless if you want it for a porential bonsai or a yard sai. Feed it up, water it well and in mid winter see if you can take it out, loosen up the edges and place back into some new soil. If you are really working to get it down to a bonsai, you will need some help from back budding, a creative potting angle and some luck.

You can make a good bonsai from Pinus strobus, the eastern white pine, I haven't done it but others have, I believe that tey are somewhat labor intensive. I am not sure what white pine this s, but there are a lot of the mexican (southwestern)white pine (Pinus strobiformis) down there, bark looks familiar.

Anyway, Tanlu has raised the difficulties that you face, depends on ow you want o spend your time.

John
 

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Re: cutting down a white pine??????
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2011, 12:35 AM »
@ John, I think you're right. It does look like a Mexican Pine.

@ Kajukid, In fact, Brent Waltson says some interesting things (responds to hard pruning with profuse back budding) about that species on his webside: evergreengardenworks.com If you haven't been there already it's a got tones of info on bonsai, and overall plant care. I recommend you contact him and show him the photo. Perhaps he can identify what it is and provide some care guidelines.