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mc4mc44

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Big Eastern White Pine
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:03 PM »
Its planted in the ground for now because it came from clay, we got most of the roots but we decided this would be best to break down the clay and then put it in a pot. Since it didn't come from a dry, rocky crag this shouldn't be too much of an issue for this tree. And since it's an EWP, which likes water, this shouldn't be a problem. Forgive me for the stakes, i'm not risking any movement in this tree, it's heavy. I know they make it look ugly, but have some imagination.

6" trunk, about 2 1/2 feet tall.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 08:56 AM »
How many needles per cluster? The bark does not look like EWP.

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 10:11 AM »
I agree.  Several of those clusters are unmistakably 2-needles.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 11:37 AM »
It was raining, the needles were bunched up. 5 needles per fascicle, soft blue white needles. It's an EWP. I know it's hard to believe with the bark, but i know my trees.

Posting pictures in a minute, why would i collect this tree if i didn't even know what it is?
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mc4mc44

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 11:45 AM »
5 needles. Two are close together on the left, but there are 5.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 09:33 AM »
Great bark. Thanks for the follow up.

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 10:00 AM »
I saw the thread you started @ bN and noticed what looked like a white stripe on the needles as well.  Ignore my "unmistakably 2-needles" comment from earlier. :)
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 10:53 AM »
I saw the thread you started @ bN and noticed what looked like a white stripe on the needles as well.  Ignore my "unmistakably 2-needles" comment from earlier. :)

I see what you were looking at in the first picture now, I get what happened. And the wet bark makes it look like a pitch pine. I would post the whole tree, but every time I try to post another picture here my computer craps out.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 06:12 PM »
Wow, that is a great trunk! You don't see that on a EWP until the tree has AGE. Good find. Only 2 feet tall? Excellent. THIS is the kind of EWP that really has potential as bonsai. Don't rush it, let it recover at least 12 months before doing much of anything. So don't try to repot or style it until 2016 or 2017. Fall of 2016 you might do a little 'bud management' but other than cleaning out dead needles I'd leave it alone for at least one full year. This tree has a lot of possibilities in it. Mature bark on such a small tree is really a treasure. Normally you don't see that until a tree is approaching 50 to 80 years. If, when you cut a large branch or root, count the rings, it will give you a clue to the age of this baby. That bark is classic P. strobus mature bark.

Nice find, great collection. Cool.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2014, 09:13 PM »
Great looking tree. I look forward to your work with it. Be sure to update!
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2014, 06:41 AM »
WOW
Extremely rare!
It is surprising that this tree was found in clay. I would love to learn as much as you are willing to share about its growing conditions and general location of collection. This is a great discovery, THANKS FOR SHARING!
Marc
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2015, 04:27 AM »
What a great tree and it has great possibilities as well.  Congratulations ;D.
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2015, 11:14 AM »
It was raining, the needles were bunched up. 5 needles per fascicle, soft blue white needles. It's an EWP. I know it's hard to believe with the bark, but i know my trees.

Posting pictures in a minute, why would i collect this tree if i didn't even know what it is?

   People collect trees that they don't know what they are all of the time. On of my pet peeves is when someone comes on a forum and asks what kind of tree is this? I just collected it.
    Is 2 feet tall going to be big enough to make the long needles look short? Or can JWP foliage be grafted to one of these?
 

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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2015, 06:38 PM »
No real updates, absolutely nothing has changed. It's still green enough to keep my hopes up though.
No browning. No drying of the bark.
Still blue greenish-yellow, no paleness.
The buds aren't very soft anymore, nevermind extending. They are still green and alive though, they don't seem to be drying out, just they aren't softening and pushing growth.
Hopefully it's just trying to relax for the summer. I didn't expect growth until very late spring anyway, but I'm getting a little worried now honestly.

And the size of this tree is perfect, The needle size could be completely ignored as long as everything ends up OK.

Marc, The tree was found in Eastern Pa, It was found a couple years ago. I moved some big rocks from around it and found straight clay and gravel. I can't really describe the area it was collected in very well, It's a special place. It's like nowhere else around here. I really just can't find the words to describe it. I'm not trying to be secretive, I just really can't describe it. It's a beautiful little hidden spot. Tiny trees are everywhere, almost every one worthy of digging. It's private property though, and it took a lot to even dig this. The owner of the property loves the area the same way I do, she'd prefer the trees stayed there but knowing I was going to do my honest best she gave me permission to dig this big one. The area was mined for the top layer of soil a very long time ago, so the area isn't exactly "natural." But the clay does have the perfect mix of gravel, big rocks, water wind and snow to grow the perfect tiny trees.

Depending on if this big ol tree makes it I'll have permission to dig more.
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Re: Big Eastern White Pine
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2015, 06:56 PM »
It might take a year off. If you get no bud extension this year, but it stays green, it is just growing roots. You need at least one year of vigorous growth before doing any more work. Plan on letting recover until 2017 before working on it.

nice, I'm glad it made it through its first winter.