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BonsaiEngineer1493

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Sick Bougainvillea
« on: March 15, 2013, 11:07 PM »
Hello guys,

I purchased this collected Bougainvillea from  wigerts nursery and It finally arrived 2 weeks ago. The leaves looks fine despite the NYC temperature (45 degrees Celsius). Of course I placed the tree inside and left it on a window sill that receives morning sunlight. However, the leaves turned light green and began defoliating. Then I decide to place it in a shady area, which is also on another window sill, but the health did not improve. Now about 40% of the leaves fell off. Indoors the temperature is about 70-75 degrees. I should note that the nursery it arrived from is in florida, which is a possibility that the tree is not comfortably experiencing the climate change, but this is my first Bougainvillea; therefore, I would like to hear from you?
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2013, 11:08 PM »
More pictures...
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 12:31 AM »
I dont think bougies aren't the easiest things to keep inside up here in the north. I got a bougie starter for my grandfather when he was ill from Wigerts, and it started to drop leaves quite rapidly because the balcony at their condo didn't get that mich direct sunlight. They are grown out in the sunshine all day there, so they will definitely need to adjust to the lower light levels. Good news is the little tree has apparently come back for them but again they live in Florida. I would not leave it in the shade and just try and baby it until warmer weather comes and you can get it outside.
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 05:58 AM »
Eric Wigert said at a workshop I attended that you could let them go dormant, dry and colder, inside. Then revive and put outside when warmer outside temps arrive in the spring.
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 10:33 AM »
I don't have any bougainvilleas, but I have had other tropicals (ficus in particular) shipped to me during the colder half of the year. Think about what this plant has experienced...it went from probably near perfect greenhouse growing conditions in Florida (sunny, warm, humid) to being packed away in a dark, airless box for at least 3-4 days (exposed to who knows what kind of temperatures), then placed into a relatively cool, dark, dry environment in NYC. I would be very surprised if it didn't lose a lot of leaves.

I'd be very careful with watering until you see signs of new growth. Otherwise, it'll probably be fine, especially if you can get it outside when the spring weather finally arrives this year.

Regarding tropicals in general...I'm coming to the conclusion that they may not be worth the trouble, at least for me. I thought I'd be able to keep them growing enough during the winter to have something bonsai-related to do (wiring, pruning). But for the most part, I find they tend to grow very little despite the high intensity lighting and warm temperatures I provide.

Chris
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2013, 11:21 AM »
Engineer, I  think your Bougie has been sent into a stage of dormancy. Try to let it go there without forcing  it to grow. It needs to rest. Try to be patient for the warmer temps and sunlight for it to kickoff. Provide a chillier night temp if you can to 55-60 Daytime 70. As Frank said "let it go dormant''. Think about your next order in the early spring. Its not easy up north here but an interesting challenge. Hope its ok.
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2013, 10:26 PM »
I have a bougainvillea I keep inside in the winter, i've had it for about 10 years now.  It's at least as large as yours, it never goes fully dormant or looses all it's leaves due to winter temps.  I leave it outside till temps are starting to fall down around 40 degrees, after it's experienced temps like these for about 2 months or when temps look like they'll be consistently below 40 it comes inside.  Indoors it's under a metal halide light, the heat from the halide brings about new growth within a week usually and it thinks spring is here.  As the new growth comes in it slowly replaces the old yellowing growth from the cold temps.  If you can get a metal halide or t5 i'd highly recommend it.

One time mine did loose all it's leaves when I went out to portland for few days this year and my wife was watering my plants.  It stayed leafless for about 3 days before putting out new leaves.  Now it's fully leafed out again.  They are sturdy trees and you shouldn't worry too much.  Can you keep it in a shady spot that stays around 50 degrees?  If not then you should definitely not put it in a shady spot as it will slowly die at indoor room temps with no sun.   It needs the warmth of the sun and it's rays to bounce back.   Put it in an area that gets as much as you can give it regardless of if it's gone dormant, and water it whenever it looks even slightly dry.  Mist it daily, unlike other trees i've kept indoors bougais love to be misted.  I've never had a problem with any kind of fungus with mine, although i've dealt with mealy bugs... Bougainvillea will drop leaves if they dry out even a little, you can usually catch it the day before as they weep when their soil starts to dry.  Don't fertilize it till the leave have returned and hardened off and growth has begun.  When indoors leaves will yellow periodically over the winter, as long as you get it outside in the late spring/summer it will live on happily.
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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2013, 01:12 PM »
Bougainvillea are not for indoor unfortunately.
 We hv lots of bougy here in Malaysia. .. and I hv not seen one indoor.
They need full sun, once water a day, good drainsge soil.
Light Fertilize after 1 month from nursery.
If u just repot, do not shake it.
Bottom line... no indoor. ..
 

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Re: Sick Bougainvillea
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2013, 01:45 PM »
Rob9696...., your advise for no indoor life for Bougies isn't going to work for those living in Cold climates. The trees will die. Keeping tropicals in cold weather climates requires thought and work. And sometimes they limp along for a while, but it can be done. Of course when the temperatures warm, they are moved outdoors.....
My two cents
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