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M.B.

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Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« on: August 27, 2009, 05:21 PM »
Hi all, I thought I'd post my first attempt at a root over rock project. It's a "Raspberry Ice" bougie I got from Lowe's a couple years ago. It made it though the first winter pretty well. I put it in my tack room for winter storage since I don't have a green house (though someday......). This June I decided I had better get it out of the nursery pot and crappy soil and when I did, the thought struck me to do something different than just a repot. I don't know why I come up with these half baked ideas but it sent me scrambling for a rock, some plastic, and of couse duct tape. One can't do any spur of the moment project without duct tape, right? Oh yeah the plastic was some "caution" tape I had laying around. O.K. quit laughing, this could be called inovative in some circles. Some muck, some sphagnum moss and I was off to the races.
I found out the hard way that putting a plant on a rock without help is rather difficult. The roots were not easy to work with and kept twisting the placement on the rock when I tried to tie it to the rock. Oh well, if I don't get good adhesion to the rock I can always start over and go for just a plain pot. It needs a lot of the usual, pushing back the foliage, wiring, ect.
We'll see in a few years if this was a waste of my time or the start of something interesting.
Mary B.
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2009, 08:14 PM »
Mary,
Your work looks very nice. I hate to be a bit discouraging but in my experience Bougies do not have aggressive or strong roots that would be necessary for root-over-rock design. I am guessing that the plant won't adhere to the rock. But keep us posted as you may successful in your endeavors.
Jerry "Bonsaihunk"
 

Larry Gockley

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2009, 08:46 PM »
Yes Mary, keep us posted. I like it so far, and Raspberry Ice bougies are beautiful. The question is,  will you be patient and let the wrapping on long enough. LOL.  Larry
 

M.B.

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2009, 10:27 AM »
Yes I'll take my time and keep you posted. Larry, I'll keep the wrapping on as long as I can. Not every one has a "redneck bonsai" project in the works. Once the wrappings off it'll just be another ROR.
Mary B.
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2009, 01:17 PM »
Hi Mary,

Even if the roots don't adhere to the rock, it is a cute little tree.  Honestly if you spread the roots out and develop a nebari I this will be a really nice tree rock or no. 

I have had several bogies in the past, and all of them suffered from weak roots except one.  The one that is still doing well has neon fuchsia blooms and was quite old.  Thinking of other people's trees I have worked on, I wonder if the weak roots thing is just something that afflicts young plants.  Its just a thought, but so far all the old "urban yamadori" trees I have worked with had strong vigarous roots, whereas all the younger plants seemed to struggle in a pot.  Anyone else have any experience with this?

Alex
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2009, 08:46 PM »
Mary:
For future information, The recipe I use for muck is powdered clay and sphagnum moss (PLEASE USE GLOVES WHEN WORKING WITH SPAGNUM MOSS)with the moss being 80% milled sphagnum and 20% long fibered sphagnum. Dampen your moss and mix in the powdered clay (I have also used clay slip) until it forms a bread dough consistency. Cover the rock with the muck mixture and then place your tree and press the roots into the muck.  Wrap with plastic wrap and then bury the tree in Bonsai soil in a deep pot or an old milk bottle or larger container (with holes for drainage) up to the first branch and leave the tree alone (except for watering for at least a year or longer.  When you can't stand it any longer, start cutting the top of the plastic bottle down about an inch every month exposing the tree a little at a time.  Patience will be rewarded with a strong root over rock.  Then you can start to style your tree.

The muck recipe works well on slab plantings. Credit for the Muck recipe comes to you from the late Ron Martin who obtained it from Joe Day! 
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2009, 10:52 PM »
Beautiful tree Mary. Cant wait to see in in bloom and with the rock exposed. Looks like the leaves are varigated. Love em!!
 

M.B.

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2009, 01:39 AM »
Thanks Joe, Raspberry Ice has varigated leaves and hot pink/fusia colored bracts. Very splashy!
Hey Carl, where do you get powderd clay or clay slip? I had a small bag of muck I bought a couple years ago and didn't have a use for it until this project. I'm sure making my own would be cheaper than the small bag I bought. I have several rocks I have plans of doing plantings on or over and could use some more muck on hand, just in case the feeling strikes me to plant something different. I've been buying Kingsville boxwoods here and there for a couple years in hopes of doing a saikai planting on a rock or slab.
Mary B.
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2009, 06:38 AM »
Hi Mary:
For clay slip etc. try the art store on line, www.dickblick.com. Good luck with your projects...
warmest regards,
Carl
 

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Re: Root over rock Raspberry Ice Bougie.
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2013, 08:17 AM »
Mary,
Hopefully the caution tape was enough to remind you to leave it on.!

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