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Joshua Hanzman

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Need styling help for new sumo neea
« on: December 24, 2013, 12:49 AM »
I think this counts as a sumo right? About 3 inch base with a 10 inch nebari, and it stands a lil under 8" to the top of the trunk, to the top of the foliage it's about a foot. I would very much like to hear a few different ideas on this, and I will be extra attentive as I can safely say that this is a very common type of material I come across in nurseries all the time, all types of species, with this very ramrod straight shape. All I have thought is a holllowed out craggy uro, with foliage accentuating both side, a little heavier with foliage on the left because of the movement, but i'm lost on how to get there from what I have. Any help is appreciated!

The 1st 2 pictures show the front view, the 3rd shows the top cut and the foliage i'm restricted to using on the left side, the last shows the rest of the foliage i'm restricted to from the right side and some of the back's wound.
 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 07:42 AM »
I would leave 3-7 well spaced branch to thicken, remove those energy sapping suckers, tiny shoots, and all but the largest branches from those groups of shoots, to get to the 3-7.

I wouldn't let those suckers spoil the smooth sweep up of the trunk.

A nice tropical broom.

 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2014, 12:47 PM »
Joshua:
I worked with this species a lot. I will consider it a Sumo or a great Shohin. Need to select the branches that you are going to use and wire them. One trick that we use a lot is to wire the branches without cutting them. Then bend the last third of the branch upwards. Neeas tend to grow upward. This will help with branch thickening while it will maintain the shape after the wire better. Once the branches reach some thickness they will become hard to move. Also the wound is almost impossible to get it to seal. Once you wire and eliminate branches it will start making new buds everywhere. That will help you with your desired design and will give you options. They love fish emulsion.

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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2014, 11:49 AM »
Thank you so much for the tips Pedro, i took your advice and eliminated unnecessary/too thick branches. I also bought fish emulsion but am worried to use it in the house as this stuff smells like an old fishing skiff  :-) as far as the dealing bit, u suppose when i see some healthy growth I will be carving uro for this tree. Any advice on how to handle carving on these, how do holes behave in the wild? I was thinking of some tropical moss from my frog vivarium to put on top of this tree, do they moss up in the wild

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2014, 12:14 PM »
Joshua:
The wood in Neea is noble, not very hard. It will rotten easily. We treat it wood hardener and after it dries we coat with lime sulphur. Most neeas back home have dead wood, however that is usually not the focal point. Usually the dead wood is in the back of the tree. They grow mostly under other trees. The moss is mostly used during exhibitions. And I do agree with you 100% on the fish emulsion it does smell a bit. Between that and the lime sulphur can drive some one out of the house for hours!. I forgot to mention that not all neeas are the same. There are at least three varieties that I have work with. The difference is the size of the leaves. I remember one in my collection that had a red coloristic trunk, like a Nerifolia/salicifolia. Also the bark is very soft, when you transplant make sure that you protect it from the wire when securing it to the pot. Picture?

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2014, 05:18 AM »
When trees don't heal, we treat them as candidates for growing from seed or small cutting and control the branching, pruning from small. Best to train in the ground, in this case a trough, you sit and train.
The Sageretia, does the not heal bit as well.
Pedro, much thanks for the information, we did wonder about the Neea.
Good Day
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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2014, 09:59 PM »
hey guys, thought you all would be good to ask first- I'm looking to buy a few ficus, would you guys sell to the states? Last tree I bought from PR was this neea, and the shipping only ran me about $40... If you guys don't do it yourselves, do you know someone who does with reasonable prices? Thanks!
 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2014, 12:23 AM »
Just bought this lil logwood, I'm building a decent sized greenhouse this year, so I thought I might as well start pre-emptively buying trees! paid $88, thought this would look great after some carving!

What would you do?
 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2014, 12:45 AM »
Why don't you tell us what you saw in the tree that made you want to purchase it.
 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2014, 06:06 AM »
And please describe what that green stuff is on the ground.  ???

I remember seeing it a while back, but it has been sooooo long, I cant remember the name! :'(

Is that really a current pic? No snow? Is that Miami?


Good call bwayne.
 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2014, 01:20 PM »
Joshua:

That logwood tree (Campeche) that purchased have lots of potential. You don't often see them with movement. They tend to be long and straight. I will feed it a LOT and wait to see where does more potential branches come out. They are good for carving.

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2014, 05:10 PM »
Bwaynef that's a good question, i think too often i see a tree, like it, but never really quantify what it is i like.

First like ortizdhs said, i was immediately drawn by the movement relative to other logwoods I've seen. I also liked the transition of the taper above the nebari, both the curve and the taper seemed to work together quite pleasingly. The tree seemed to have a few other features that i liked-the muscled feature of the live vein... I remember feeling that the base looked almost like a cave. And the roots while small, gripped nicely to the soil.

What did you all think?

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2014, 09:50 PM »
I am a fan of the missing root, and split down to the soil. I see it all the time, very real to me.

Actually. The tree in my avatar is quite like that .

Did you move south? Whats with all the tropicals?

Is winter that bad? I just watched a YouTube. Video of a dude snowboarding in NYC. ;D

 

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Re: Need styling help for new sumo neea
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2014, 10:18 PM »
No, I live in Jersey still, but I'm building a greenhouse, and need to fill it!