Author Topic: An Introduction Tree  (Read 3159 times)

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
An Introduction Tree
« on: September 05, 2011, 11:31 AM »
Hey everyone,


My name is Ryan and this is my first post to the site. I've been into bonsai for about 3 years, ever since I was 15. I'm now 18 and have been hard at work on trees, mostly ficus. I grow some of my tropicals in aquariums, and so far it has worked great. This first tree I'll share is one that was given to me for my 18th birthday from a good friend. It is a sumo shohin Ficus benjamina 'Kiki', and it is still very much a work in progress.

The progression of it is below.

« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 11:43 AM by Ryan »
 

Bonsai Study Group Admin

  • Administrator
  • Sr. Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 430
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2011, 11:32 AM »
Welcome to the Bonsai Study Group.  Please take a moment to read the Welcome thread.

If you have images to share with your post we ask that you upload them here. Ideally we want users to upload their photos here for discussion, as often external links and embedded photos become broken as images and other files are removed or URLs change.  Additionally, images posted here are hidden from guests, encouraging visitors to register for the site and contribute to the community.  You can still embed uploaded images within your post using Bulletin Board Code and the uploaded image URL.  If you need a reference please visit the help section of this site. If you need further assistance please feel free to post your question to the forum feedback section.

You are allowed to edit a post for up to 45 minutes.  If that time passes and you wouldn't mind uploading your photos in a separate post a forum moderator will be happy to edit and place the images for you.
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2011, 11:42 AM »
Welcome to the Bonsai Study Group.  Please take a moment to read the Welcome thread.

If you have images to share with your post we ask that you upload them here. Ideally we want users to upload their photos here for discussion, as often external links and embedded photos become broken as images and other files are removed or URLs change.  Additionally, images posted here are hidden from guests, encouraging visitors to register for the site and contribute to the community.  You can still embed uploaded images within your post using Bulletin Board Code and the uploaded image URL.  If you need a reference please visit the help section of this site. If you need further assistance please feel free to post your question to the forum feedback section.

You are allowed to edit a post for up to 45 minutes.  If that time passes and you wouldn't mind uploading your photos in a separate post a forum moderator will be happy to edit and place the images for you.

Oops . Edited and ready to go.

More pictures. These show it getting a haircut, then, with Jerry Meisliks guidance, the tree was turned around and the back became the front. Then it was pruned and final branches have been selected.

Its now been repotted and is ready to continue growing in the aquarium. So, your thoughts?
 

bwaynef

  • Administrator
  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1785
  • Thanked: 33 times
  • USDA Zone: 8a
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2011, 01:32 PM »
I don't have any tropicals, save one olea, but I wonder why you haven't wired any branches.  Thoughts?
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2011, 02:43 PM »
I don't have any tropicals, save one olea, but I wonder why you haven't wired any branches.  Thoughts?

That's a good question. I don't really have any reason at all really. I just want to let the tree grow for now and will probably end up shortening the branches, as they are now getting lots of backbud. And more branches on the right side need to go, it's just all about selection.

 

bwaynef

  • Administrator
  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1785
  • Thanked: 33 times
  • USDA Zone: 8a
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2011, 03:05 PM »
It just seems like you could go ahead and wire the branches for direction and get the angle from the trunk set ...regardless of how much growing out will be done in the future.  Again, I have no tropicals, but I doubt it would impact the tree negatively.
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2011, 04:45 PM »
It just seems like you could go ahead and wire the branches for direction and get the angle from the trunk set ...regardless of how much growing out will be done in the future.  Again, I have no tropicals, but I doubt it would impact the tree negatively.

You are very right. It won't have a negative impact on the growth, I just am unsure of how to wire movement into the branches right now. I could easily shorten them up and wire zig-zag kind of motions into the branches.
 

bwaynef

  • Administrator
  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1785
  • Thanked: 33 times
  • USDA Zone: 8a
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2011, 09:13 PM »
I just mean that you ought to go ahead and SET the branch direction/angle as it leaves the trunk.  I'd tend to think that you'd do better with c-n-g for movement than wiring.
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2011, 09:23 PM »
I just mean that you ought to go ahead and SET the branch direction/angle as it leaves the trunk.  I'd tend to think that you'd do better with c-n-g for movement than wiring.

Thank you, that's what I shall do. Right now the branches are getting some backbud, so we'll see what else pops.
 

Mike Pollock

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 83
  • Thanked: 1 times
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2011, 07:37 PM »
I agree, just set the departure angle of the branches for now.

This trunk is very straight, conducive to a formal upright or banyan style. Neither of those styles has particularly sinuous or curvy branches.  Some banyans have wiggly branches (for wont of a better term), but that movement would be better achieved from directional pruning.  See some of Min Lo's trees for examples.

I think you're right in letting it grow out now. Just be careful of wire bite if you do wire it now.

Its a great start.  Do you have any other varieties of Ficus? Salicaria (nerifolia) or Microcarpa?
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2011, 08:06 PM »
I agree, just set the departure angle of the branches for now.

This trunk is very straight, conducive to a formal upright or banyan style. Neither of those styles has particularly sinuous or curvy branches.  Some banyans have wiggly branches (for wont of a better term), but that movement would be better achieved from directional pruning.  See some of Min Lo's trees for examples.

I think you're right in letting it grow out now. Just be careful of wire bite if you do wire it now.

Its a great start.  Do you have any other varieties of Ficus? Salicaria (nerifolia) or Microcarpa?

Thank you Mike. Great advice.

I do have tons of other ficus, my favorite being Willow Leaf. I've probably got 7 or 8 Willow Leaf Ficus, all in different stages of development. I have some microcarpa, but not too many. I have a couple other benjaminas as well. I can share if anyones interested.
 

Mike Pollock

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 83
  • Thanked: 1 times
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2011, 08:12 PM »
I'm a huge nerifolia fan (as you might have guessed from some of my pics posted here).  Where are you located, its not in your profile?  I'm guessing somewhere up north like me if you're growing them in aquariums.
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2011, 08:17 PM »
I'm a huge nerifolia fan (as you might have guessed from some of my pics posted here).  Where are you located, its not in your profile?  I'm guessing somewhere up north like me if you're growing them in aquariums.

Oops, I'll edit that.

I'm located in Northern Virginia, Zone 7a. I currently only have one aquarium, but I am working on my winter setup. I don't think that'll include an aquarium though....
 

Mike Pollock

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 83
  • Thanked: 1 times
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2011, 03:03 PM »
I use a 1,000 watt metal halide light. But if I inherited a bunch of cash I'd try the new vegetative growth balanced LEDs.
 

Ryan

  • Legit New User
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: An Introduction Tree
« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2011, 06:33 PM »
I use a 1,000 watt metal halide light. But if I inherited a bunch of cash I'd try the new vegetative growth balanced LEDs.

Ah yes, I don't have anything too complex, but maybe one day....