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John Kirby

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2009, 06:30 PM »
I'll post some pics, I have several from japan that I have piced up through a friend in California and my trip to Japan a few years ago.  All are small enough that the Nebari will come pretty close to the edge.

It needs wire and some directed pruning to get it nice and twiggy over the next few years.  John
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2009, 09:01 PM »
I've overlayed red on a part of the trunk of this li'l trident that bothers me.  Is there any plan to correct the taper there?  Should I overlook it since this is a shohin?

I suspect that doing much to try to correct it would ruin other parts of the tree and may just not be worth it, but I figure I'd ask those more knowledgable than myself.

Thoughts?
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2009, 09:27 PM »
I'll go throw it in the trash. Seriously, Wayne, you sometimes have to live with what you've got. There was a cutback of a large sacrifice branch that has healed over. You could cut it back to the line, let the top run and heal it, graft all new branches on. Or, you can work with what you have, which is why the top was grown up to improve taper.

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2009, 11:35 PM »
John,

Throw it in the trash - just let me know when so I can go dumpster driving -  I'd be more than happy and proud to add it to my Shohin collection. Area in red does not bother me one bit. With continued ramification and development in will only improve and reach its full potential. Its a spectacular tree. I am anxious to see your pot choices when you have time to post them.

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2009, 07:26 AM »
I'll go throw it in the trash. Seriously, Wayne, you sometimes have to live with what you've got. There was a cutback of a large sacrifice branch that has healed over. You could cut it back to the line, let the top run and heal it, graft all new branches on. Or, you can work with what you have, which is why the top was grown up to improve taper.

John

Hopefully I didn't strike a nerve.  I wasn't so much disparaging the tree as finding out what's acceptable within the allowances afforded shohin.  I probably should have mentioned in my previous post that I really like the tree.  Hopefully that wasn't said too late.
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2009, 10:09 AM »
Too late?

The man's in tears.

The tree's in the dumpster.
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2009, 01:45 PM »
Wayne,
No, no nerve struck here. It is just one of the "faults" that one sees. If I can get the branch density up I don't think that it will be a problem. The biggest thing now, for me is getting the nebari to match the stubby little trunk.

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2009, 07:47 PM »
Wayne,
No, no nerve struck here. It is just one of the "faults" that one sees. If I can get the branch density up I don't think that it will be a problem. The biggest thing now, for me is getting the nebari to match the stubby little trunk.

John

I like it, and I could live with it, despite its faults.  I bet there is a good nebari too.
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2009, 08:12 PM »
Don,
I can't wait to look under the soil when repotting. It has filled in a good deal since you saw it last, we will see The larger shallow pot has allowed the roots to run pretty aggressively to the edges. May be one more repot then back in to the small pot.

Will see,

John
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2010, 10:08 PM »
So, Don sent me some pics of shohin this winter, and I picked a few up. The little tree we were talking about here now has a new home with a friend, and it has been replaced with this little tree. Don sent a pic of it without leaves, here it is this past weekend as I was getting ready to reduce leaves, prune a little and wire. More later.
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #25 on: May 25, 2010, 05:41 PM »
Here is the little tree without any leaves last winter.
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #26 on: August 27, 2010, 01:23 PM »
John,

Any updated you'd care to share?

JRob
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2010, 04:19 PM »
I worked on it in May and then again the end of June. I won't get to do anything with it again until November when I get out to Boon's again. I'll get some pictures then (or if I sneak out in October....)  John
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2010, 04:44 PM »
After fall work, wire removed, leaves cleaned up, is continuing to develop in its training pot. John
 

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Re: Shohin Trident
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2010, 05:00 PM »
One hell of a tree. I am deeply impressed.