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Species Specific => Trident Maple Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: leila on April 12, 2012, 08:01 AM

Title: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: leila on April 12, 2012, 08:01 AM
I acquired this little Trident in March at a workshop where I bought and repotted it.  A few branches with long internodes were pruned, but for the most part I left most branches alone.  When I bought it, it was just starting to leaf out a tiny bit.

Now that the leaves have come out entirely, I've noticed that they all hang down.  Is this typical of new leaves?  Are they supposed to do that, or is it a symptom of some issue I need to fix?

The other question is... the foliage is growing very densely, and close to the trunk.  I did some pinching as I had been instructed in the workshop.  Should I be trying to manage the density of this foliage, or is it best just to let it do what it wants while it grows and strengthens?

Pics follow.
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: leila on April 12, 2012, 08:14 AM
Here is a picture of what I'm thinking for the future of this tree.  I want it to sort overhang the area beside the trunk.  I think my biggest challenge will be overcoming the sort of two dimensional quality the tree has right now.  In the mean-time I'm just trying to get well ramified branches.  I've selected a branch to use as a sacrifice branch, in order to thicken the trunk.  The tree has good possibilities for nebari, but I've got them buried right now.
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: John Kirby on April 12, 2012, 09:15 AM
Um, what size tree were you thinking of? It looks completely normal, but it is really in need of a much larger pot, even if you are planning on a 3" tall tree in the future. The tree needs to grow and then be brought back to the size you want. even if you don't want to do a trunk cut down.

John
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: MatsuBonsai on April 12, 2012, 09:43 AM
And stop pinching. This is the wrong advice.
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: leila on April 12, 2012, 10:27 AM
Okay, so since this tree was repotted a month ago, is it safe to say I should wait till next spring to repot it?  The root mass as is has plenty of room to grow in that pot, and I don't want to overly stress the tree.

If I don't pinch, will it not grow very long internodes?  Or is it because the tree is so young that I should just let it grow wild for a while?  I'm confused, because I thought that short internodes was ideal.
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: bwaynef on April 12, 2012, 12:59 PM
Or is it because the tree is so young that I should just let it grow wild for a while?

Ding! Ding! Ding!

This one needs to grow out.  You'll eventually chop it back (and let it grow ...and chop it back) and then will be when you can start thinking about pinching.
Title: Re: Is my Trident Maple normal?
Post by: Larry Gockley on April 12, 2012, 10:39 PM
Yes stop pinching. The leaves are the carbohydrate factory that will thicken the trunk and branches. The more leaves, the better. After the branches thicken, you will probably need to cut them back and start over to get tapir, and any short internodes you might create at this stage will only be cut off.