Author Topic: Trident trunk chop for shohin?  (Read 3025 times)

OCREEFLOVER

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Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« on: October 13, 2013, 10:20 PM »
Hello everyone.

I recently purchased this nice trident and would like to make plans to make it a shohin if possible. The total height at the apex is about 15". I understand the best time to chop tridents is in the spring, I'm just trying to make a game plan. Would I be better off planting the tree in a training pot after the chop? Any help would be great.

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2013, 08:51 AM »
There's a faster shohin in that canopy. With a better nebari.

I would Airlayer it in the spring.

2 tree gameplan.
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2013, 09:51 AM »
Thats a great idea. I will have to do my homework on air layering.  Do tridents respond well to air layering?
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2013, 08:10 PM »
Tridents are the examples used in most books because they're so quick to layer.  Ordinarily I'd recommend against airlayering as a means of increasing the number of trees you have, but if you do this first thing next spring it'll only be delaying development by 2 months or so. (Depending on where you live.  I should probably have checked.)
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2013, 08:20 PM »
This is a nice little tree. The base in and of itself will not make a good shohin . The top, while nice as part of the medium sized tree won't be a good shohin either. I would look at keeping this tree as a medium sized tree and work to learn how to develop and maintain a Trident Maple bonsai.
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 12:59 PM »
Thanks for all the info guys.
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2013, 10:34 AM »
I noticed the claw root, very similar to a Deshojo JM I have.  I've been wondering how to address this...is it possible with the next re pot to move the claw root over to where I need roots too and do an approach graft using this claw root?
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2013, 04:27 PM »
When appropriate,  I would just remove that root on the left. Then I would raise the soil line and plant it in a different spot in this pot or another pot. Also, this tree will thicken up a bit in 3-5 years. You could have a very nice future tree. Here is a pic of the soil line raied, the root removed and planter in a slightly different spot. Sometimes simple things can make a big difference.

Rob

 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2013, 08:58 PM »
Those are really good solutions Rob.  Much improved!  I'll check and see if I can do the same with mine.  Thanks!
 

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Re: Trident trunk chop for shohin?
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2013, 10:28 PM »
Thanks for all the input. I really appreciate it.