Thanks for replying. I can not personally thank you enough for all your help since my son and I entered the hobby and I bought my first tree from you late in the fall of 2008. As a matter of fact it was our first shohin and our second tree. It seems like only yesterday. Your help got us off to a great start in building a respectable shohin bonsai collection which as you know was my goal. With your help and the material I that we purchased from you and others we won 1st place ribbons in 2009, 2010, 2011 & 2012 with judging from Tigre Urishibata (Japan), Koji Hiamatsu (Japan), Roy Nagatoshi (CA) and Lindsay Shiba (CA). Simply amazing since we were just starting out. Our club members and others have been wonderful as well and everyone we have come to know. Bonsai is a great group of people and everyone has been extremely helpful and we are very grateful. I have not killed a tree yet and Dave is correct I like them small and tight. It is a feat to keep them thriving here in the midwest, particularly last summer with the long string of days above 100. At the fall Japanese Festival last year I was still able to show a shohin Japanese Maple that I purchased from Jim Doyle a few years ago and it did not have one scorched leaf and it was in a pot 1/2" deep because I continue to follow the advice you gave. We appreciate all your great advice.