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juan

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Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« on: December 29, 2009, 05:42 PM »
Hello all:

This is my first post here. Just wanted to share a little tree I recently wired. Any advice is more than welcome (perhaps open up the tree a little bit to show more trunk?) This was started 4 years ago as a cutting, it has stayed on the same pot all this time. Hopefully I'll get this in a bonsai pot next year.

Also, hope you all had a happy Xmas and looking forward to a fruitful New Year.

Best regards,

Juan
 
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John Kirby

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2009, 07:41 PM »
Very nice, I will be interested in seeing how juvenile it goes after this work. It is about 8" tall or so? Do you know what the variety is? I am using my phone so pics are small. Again, very nice start. John
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2009, 09:40 AM »
This is a great little juniper, and I would say you are doing all the right things with it.  Eventually I would guess you will lose some of the lower foliage from both the left and right side to open up the view of the trunk movement.  However, that can probably happen over the course of a few years.  My friend Jim Gremmel grows a lot of trees that look similar to this, and you are following the same path he does, so I would say keep it up, you will have a really nice tree in a few years.

John-it looks like the bottom 2/3 are juvenile, but I admit to not really knowing how long that will take to correct or what to do about it.  I know it happens when you do a lot of pruning on a juniper all at once, but how do you deal with it once its done?  I have a couple junipers with the same bluish foliage and was told it was Itoi-gowa shimpaku, though I have no idea if that is correct.

Thanks for posting it Juan, this is gonna be a great little tree.

Alex
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2009, 11:23 AM »
Juan,
That's fantastic trunk movement you have put into that little tree. I wonder if you would care to show a photo of it during that process?

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2009, 11:43 AM »
Well, it isn't itoigawa (or shimpaku (as we identify shimpaku as a sargentii or chinensis or media) of any sort, has foliage more like one of the rug type junipers. Alex, the itoigawa junipers have a very fine and greenish (light green usually) foliage, if your tree is bluish it may be tohaku or kishu or the old blue sargentii which can be very nice).  My concern on the reversion to juvenile is only related to stress and branch survival, probably not an issue with the good growth.

I would love to see how large a cutting this started out as and whether it was wired while still on the tree or after cutting. Harold Sasaki has been an advocate for getting the big bends placed in material before you make a cutting out of it.
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2009, 12:05 PM »
Thank you Alex, John and Chris for your comments.

The tree is around 6-7 inches tall. It is a rug type for sure. It was cut back more than 50% when styled, so I am too worried about turning it all juvenile (guess we'll see in a couple of months).

Most of the cut back was clean-up of old weak branches and 2 lower strong branches. This particular variety seems to returns to adult foliage pretty easily, though.

Here's some pics of the trunk after clean up and after carving shari/jin (pics 1 and 2). First option was a cascade but the cascading branch was too leggy, so I cut it off. Pic 3 is a close up of the chosen angle.

This was started as a pencil-thick cutting. Each year the tree grew one water sprout I bent and chopped at the end of the year. Pic 4 tells how the tree was grown.

Best regards,


Juan
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 01:02 PM »
That was one heck of a cutting. Great work.
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2010, 10:59 AM »
WOW! what a transformation, great work!!
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2010, 06:22 PM »
Thanks Jeff and Chris for the kind comments, glad you liked it.   ;D
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2010, 06:29 PM »
This was started 4 years ago as a cutting, it has stayed on the same pot all this time.

That is quite amazing growth for a 4 year cutting.  What sort of steriods do you pump into it? ;D
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2010, 12:20 PM »
Juan,
Thank you for the great diagram at the end. Wonderful work so far. I look forward to seeing this one develop.
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2010, 04:56 PM »

Juan,

Superb work on this Juniper.

Do you post on another forum?  If so and you are the person I'm thinking of, you have a great talent for styling trees, one which is instantly recognisable - especially with Junipers.

Your restyling of a Sokan Cupressus lusitanica is one of the best I've seen.

Thanks  for sharing this one, I look forward to the next update.

Paul
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2010, 03:58 PM »
Hi Dennis, I live in the tropics, so things here grow pretty much year-round. I use slow-release chemical fert for development , 11-23-11 , these particular junipers seems to like it.  And a drench of Peters (complete formula)when I remember...

Chris, thanks . Repotting is around the corner here. I'll post an update when it gets a bonsai pot.

Paul, thank you for the kind words. And yes, I do post a little bit  here and there.  :D
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2010, 11:27 PM »
Juan,
good job,  do you mix aluminum and copper wire?
Boon
 

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Re: Shohin Juniper (variety unknown)
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2010, 10:10 AM »
Hi Boon! You sure have eagle eyes :o I don't like to mix, but when I reached the upper third I realized I did not have thin enough copper...