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joe cervantes

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2010, 10:55 PM »
I always love coming back to this thread to look at this tree. Love the progression.
 

Thomas J.

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #16 on: August 19, 2010, 11:33 PM »
Hey Jeremy,
Good work on both of those, can't believe you waited so long though to try them. If you don't mind I would like to offer my
2 cents worth. Both of your little procumbens have nice movement in their trunks, something that most do not have where it counts, down low. With that said, you have some good potential in both of them. Since you waited this long to try them, I challenge you to wait another 4 or 5 years with them by doing nothing and just letting them grow some branching now. If you don't establish some branching now, all you'll have is a juniper bush, not a juniper bonsai. I'm sure you have probably seen these pics I'm posting. The first was taken at purchase and the second was taken 4 yrs. later when I felt I had enough branching to begin my work. The tree was purchased in 1998 from a garden nursery and chopped as it's shown in the first pic. The real work began in 2002. The last pic is the most recent, 12 yrs. later. I hope you'll consider it, I think it will be worth it. ;)
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Jerry Norbury

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2010, 10:12 AM »
Thomas.

Thanks for the kind words - I've not seen you around for a while and I've always appreciated your positive comments. I've got some Chinese Elms for you to look at - but that's another story.

It may look to you like two trees, but this is ONE tree.

This is the progression it has made from being a bush on the 18th of April 2010 to the last photos of a few days ago (middle of August 2010).

Here's the chop slideshow:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/norbury/sets/72157623883698292/show/


The initial progression from Juniper bush to semi-finished tree took around 3 hours in one session.
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JamieR

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2010, 10:17 AM »
Gday Jerry :)

are you sure this is procumbens? it looks to me like the needles are that of either Juniperus ridgida or juniperus conferta? the tree is very strong and it looks very like one of the two mentioned. to me anyways?
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2010, 11:37 AM »
I was pretty certain it was Procumbens - but the label doesn't help either, only stating "evergreen".

Certainly not Rigida.

Conferta? Mines green and not very blue.

No - sticking with Procumbens.
 

Thomas J.

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2010, 04:49 PM »
OOPS, sorry for that mistake Jeremy, really thought I was looking at two different trees. I took a gander at your slide show and couldn't help being distracted by all your other bonsai in the background. It looks like you have the bonsai bug pretty bad fella. ;D It looks like a little bonsai nursery there. I remember when I had quite a few trees also, still not as many as you though. I've cut back quite a lot working mainly now with JBPs. I have one or two ch.elms left and a few junipers, but mainly JBPs. Looks like your having fun though and that's the main thing. Good luck with all of them. ;)

Thomas
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2010, 05:27 PM »
No problem.
The Bug? I guess you could say that with the count now at 250 ...I built those two big benches and there was no looking back.



Here are some of the better trees.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/norbury/sets/72157607802493717/show/
 

Thomas J.

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2010, 06:59 PM »
OMG,
You do have a nursery. I wouldn't know what to do with that many trees. ???
Some really good stuff in that last slide show. The photography is good also, you made good use of lighting.

Thomas
 

Jerry Norbury

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2010, 10:20 AM »
Thanks Thomas. Means there's always something to be doing. Repotting took 18 days though...

I'm reliably informed that there's no money in bonsai so I'll be sticking to working in banks. We have the three largest bonsai wholesalers in Europe in The Netherlands - I'd not dream of trying to compete. Especially since my garden is tiny (90% visible here):

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2010, 03:57 PM »
Gday Jerry :)

are you sure this is procumbens? it looks to me like the needles are that of either Juniperus ridgida or juniperus conferta? the tree is very strong and it looks very like one of the two mentioned. to me anyways?
I take it all back. I don't think it is a procumbens any more.

I was at a bonsai nursery yesterday and came across some actual procumbens nana and they were quite different to what I have...

Hmmm... the plot thickens.
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2010, 04:11 PM »
Hey Jerry,
I hear the best wat to end up with a million dollars in a bonsai business is to start with two million.........
 

Jerry Norbury

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2010, 04:58 PM »
Hey Jerry,
I hear the best wat to end up with a million dollars in a bonsai business is to start with two million.........
Exactly!

I also play in a Funk band (for fun) with a bunch of really talented musicians and they are living on the breadline as far as I can see...
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2010, 06:18 PM »
Procumbens Nana are somewhat of an American phenomenon, I think. In Europe, we don't get a lot of them - not at specialist bonsai places and only rarely in garden centres. Anyway, recently I took part in an online competition on a UK Bonsai board to style a "cheap" (sub $25) garden centre shrub into a bonsai.

I surprised myself and actually found a Juniper Procumbens Nana and thought I would share how it turned out. The pot is 10"/25cm across and the final tree size is 7"/18cm high.

Here are the before and after shots - you'll note I have chosen not to repot it at this time.
Jerry, it's a great tree.  Not a lot more to be said.  We see a lot of Nana here in the States, it's a good cultivar but unfortunately somewhat blase due to its prevalence as "mallsai."  Every so often you see one that just strikes a chord.  You struck a chord.

Zach
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2010, 06:48 PM »
Thanks Zach.
 

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Re: After 33 years - my first Procumbens Nana...
« Reply #29 on: September 14, 2010, 01:58 PM »
Nice start Jerry. What I'd add next is a bit of shari. Just small sections above and below the little jins you started, then see what the tree does naturally over time.

This is one of mine that started in the same way; a $35US garden center nana. Slowly its becoming a nice shohin.

Mike