Author Topic: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku  (Read 10233 times)

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2010, 07:45 AM »
Al, nice twisty little juniper. Did you start this on as a cutting? It has great movementand branch placement.

When you work with Boon (or any, I believe, of the good Japanese trained Juniper guys), he talks about pruning, not pinching, to form pads with great depth and structure. Then once you have the pad structure the way you like, pinch to increase the density and improve the outline of the pad.  This sounds so simple, until you try it on the small fine branches you see on these little itoigawas. I ended up pruning way too much green and lightly lignified tissue, so it went Juvenile- just like they will go juvenile if youover pinch them, or in this case green prune or pinch when the tree was stressed already (root work needed to be done).

You are just going to have to look the other way on your nice little tree and let it get strong and watch the foliage revert to mature itoigawa.

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2010, 08:46 AM »
Hi John, After reading your post I decided to thin mine out and start over on the foliage pads.

Al, it looks like the wire bit in a little on this one.  From what I've read here and elsewhere, I've no doubts that was intentional.  Are you planning to add shari on this one?  When will that process start?
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2012, 05:59 PM »
So, put this one in to the BIB show this year, i has progressed nicely, still a ways to go- but it is getting better. I am including pictures from April of 2007, when I got it as a trunk from Marco Invernizzi (Larry Leone), the next picture is from January 2008 after Mike Hagedorn worked on it and then the pictures from last week when Daisaku worked on it. It is planted in a pot of Boon's (old Japanese) that was a gift from Mr. Kamiya during one of his visits.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2012, 10:46 PM »
Great work.  It may just be me, but it appears the tree is leaning back and away a bit.  I understand the limitations of photos.  IMO a front viewed just a little more from the right may also bring out a little more depth in the design.  The shimpaku is coming along very very well from the initially purchased tree.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2012, 11:12 PM »
Owen, good catch, the tree is turned about 8-10 degrees off center, the pot in the frame gives it away. I expect the show book will have it centered. 5 more years it should be pretty good.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2012, 10:32 PM »
John, I'm available for children's parties, divorces, and court hearings  :D
Heard you may be at the Kokufu.  I look forward to meeting you there.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2012, 10:38 PM »
Yep, I have a couple of days at the University of Tokyo, returning a visit, then a week or so wandering around in Japan, then over to Beijing/Nanjing to finish up. Should be fun, I am really looking forward to this trip. John
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2012, 10:53 PM »
My email is:  owenbonsai@me.com. If your don't have your whole Japan leg booked I can make some suggestions to tack onto the stops you are making.  Hamarikyu (Imperial Villa site) in the bay area of Tokyo has a nice ume collection and nice pond gardens for starters.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2012, 11:01 PM »
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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2012, 09:17 PM »
Couple of more pictures, before and after, Akio had some extra time and did a rewire and thinning- remember this tree has not been "pinched" the way many folks try and get denser. it has just been on a grow, thin and prune cycle for the past 5 years.

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2012, 09:22 PM »
John,

Looking great.

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2012, 10:14 AM »
Coming along very nicely John.  Though for me, I liked It a bit more when I saw more of the jins that we're seen from first photo. But I like the foliage pad development a lot. Just wish I could see more jins. I'm sure this is a matter of personal taste though.  Really nice shimpaku!
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2012, 11:04 AM »
You mean back when it was an ugly slant? When the tree is in front of you, you do get the subtle bits and pieces of jins. I find that many of us Americans like thinner foliage to highlight jins, the balance and increased stability of the tree inits current form is much, much better.
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2012, 12:12 PM »
Looking sweet John!  :)
 

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Re: Shohin/Kifu Itoigawa Shimpaku
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2012, 09:50 PM »
Thanks John.

Mike Hagedorn has a great piece on Juniper foliage management- just like decandling black pines, earning the technique can lead to rapid improvement and long lived trees.

http://crataegus.com/2012/08/26/how-to-pinch-junipers