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Species Specific => Shimpaku Juniper Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: M. Frary on August 05, 2014, 07:21 AM

Title: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 05, 2014, 07:21 AM
  I just received this from Meehans Miniatures. It is quite the bush. And going to be quite the project. The trunk is a little over 2" at the dirt and is potbound like a brick. Water goes through slow but goes through so I wait till spring to start some work.
 Some ideas maybe? Taking better pictures today.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: bwaynef on August 05, 2014, 08:44 AM
What are your plans for it?  What'd you see in it that made you pull the trigger?
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: Adair M on August 05, 2014, 11:23 AM
Hmm... fall is a good time to do styling work.  Repot in spring.

Why is fall a good time for styling? The bark stays on the cambium better.  When the sap is flowing, the bark separates from the cambium easily. 

Which is why jins and shari are most easily created in the summer.  When the sap is flowing.  Easy to remove the bark.

So, when styling this fall, and there's a branch that you'd like to jin, don't cut it off entirely, or remove all the foliage, leave some so the life line is intact.  Then jin it next spring/summer.

Have fun!
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 05, 2014, 09:13 PM
What are your plans for it?  What'd you see in it that made you pull the trigger?

  I think I'm going to drastically change the planting angle. Tip it to the right and cascade or jin the right trunk.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: GBHunter on August 06, 2014, 12:52 AM
The only issue I had with bushes that size is how far the foliage is from the trunk.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 06, 2014, 05:53 AM
  This one isn't bad. Its been kept close at the nursery by cutting it back every so often.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: Herman on August 06, 2014, 06:42 AM
Hi M,

Is this the normal variety of shimpaku? the foliage looks a bit loose, was it maybe grown in a shady spot?
love the base on it, nice material to test ones creativity, It's a blank canvas :)

kind regards
Herman
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: bwaynef on August 06, 2014, 08:32 AM
What are your plans for it?  What'd you see in it that made you pull the trigger?

  I think I'm going to drastically change the planting angle. Tip it to the right and cascade or jin the right trunk.

Then I'm not sure I can give much advice.  The strength of this tree to me seems to be it's multi-trunkedness. 
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 06, 2014, 09:14 PM
What are your plans for it?  What'd you see in it that made you pull the trigger?

  I think I'm going to drastically change the planting angle. Tip it to the right and cascade or jin the right trunk.

Then I'm not sure I can give much advice.  The strength of this tree to me seems to be it's multi-trunkedness. 

  I'm open to all suggestions dude! Multiple sets of eyes and opinions are what I come to forums for. Tipping it up isn't set in stone. Let's hear what you would do. Or anyone else on here for that matter. Let's go!
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 06, 2014, 09:19 PM
Hi M,

Is this the normal variety of shimpaku? the foliage looks a bit loose, was it maybe grown in a shady spot?
love the base on it, nice material to test ones creativity, It's a blank canvas :)

kind regards
Herman

  Herman, all I know for sure is it is a shimpaku. My first one at that. So I'm not sure how tight the foliage should be. It came from a bonsai nursery 1000 miles away. Don't know.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: bwaynef on August 06, 2014, 10:23 PM
I hinted at it in my response.  I'd keep the multiple trunks and create a broad spreading tree. 
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: Sorce on August 07, 2014, 05:04 AM
Where are those better pics?  ???

I agree with Herman. An excellent blank canvass to test ones creativity.

Cant see much of it, please remove that white tag.! Lol

So far, Bwayne is right. Its power comes from the bold wide stance.

Sorce
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 07, 2014, 11:51 AM
I hinted at it in my response.  I'd keep the multiple trunks and create a broad spreading tree. 

 I like that idea also. It is almost there.
 
 And here is a couple pictures.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: fh05 on August 07, 2014, 02:41 PM
you can tilt it significantly to make one trunk cascade, one semicascade and another informal upright/slant. If you have multiple trunks you can make a clump style too.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: John Kirby on August 07, 2014, 07:48 PM
Two or more trunks of similar size means you need to make a choice to build a good bonsai. These are pretty forgiving, root well from cuttings or layer and respond well to work. Good luck.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: M. Frary on August 07, 2014, 08:18 PM
 Thank you all for the input. I'll just look at it for now.  Maybe.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: bwaynef on August 07, 2014, 09:08 PM
The initial pics had me believing the trunks split closer to the ground.  The close-ups have me stumped as to how I'd proceed.
Title: Re: My new shimpaku
Post by: Herman on August 08, 2014, 02:34 AM
Hi M,

then it's a shimpaku grown in the shade, give it full sun and the foliage should become a lot tighter(more compact)

How about something like this, don't think traditional styles, think outside of the box. the material certainly demands you to think outside of the box. the pic I've attached is just to get you to think outside the box, not meant that this is a viable design option, though it could be, but will look slightly different than this pine due to the bones of your shimpaku not being the same(ie. branches and sub trunks in different places)

gooi mielies!!!

kind regards
Herman