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bwaynef

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My new Shimpaku
« on: June 01, 2015, 01:36 PM »
This one has changed through a few hands recently and when I had the opportunity, it quickly followed me home.  It was quite over-grown, but seemed very healthy.  I'd intended to repot it this spring, but that window lapsed and so it will continue in this pot  & soil for another year.

I noticed this spring that there were lots of inner branches that were starting to weaken/yellow, so this weekend I decided I'd open it up a bit.  This was simply to let more light in and hopefully strengthen some interior growth so I can compact this tree a good bit over the next few years.

I've got a couple of ideas as to the way forward with this one, but nothing that'd constitute a plan.  I'd be interested to hear what you have to say about it.
 

Owen Reich

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2015, 09:36 PM »
Hopefully leaving a branch growing to the rear.  

You could field grow it until the trunk bends swell together and keep all the curves.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2015, 09:38 PM by Owen Reich »
 

bwaynef

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2015, 10:40 PM »
wow.  I guess the repeating spiral(s) don't add that much, but I saw a little something different. 

I'll see what I can do with this one when I get some time.  If push comes to shove (what does that even MEAN?) I'll still be able to go in the direction of this virtual.

 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2015, 11:12 PM »
It's an opinion, and not my tree  :).  I'd love to see something novel done with it.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2015, 02:10 PM »
I kinda agree with Owen.  The barber pole, corkscrew twist in the basic tree is very bothering.  I'd differ a bit, though in only giving the tree one direction to grow in.

But . . . this too is but one person's opinion.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2015, 08:21 PM »
You canalso "crush" the tree using a jack, on a couple of axes compressing the spiral and redirecting parts of it. Then let it grow and pull it back in.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2015, 11:02 PM »
Kirby, that's closer to what I was hoping to do.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2015, 08:03 AM »
Agreed.  Something like this could be nice.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2015, 10:15 AM »
I'm pretty sure I'd need a few extra hands (and more expertise) to pull something like that off with this material.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2015, 12:01 PM »
Nope, a jack and some guy wires.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2015, 10:49 PM »
Have any recommendations for a jack?  If you don't have a URL handy, anything to look for?  Think China can make 'em as good as Japan?

Any reason this wouldn't suffice?: http://www.stonelantern.com/Extra_Large_Bonsai_Tree_Branch_Jack_p/tcbj6.htm
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2015, 12:51 AM »
Only one way to find out.  Make sure to use some sort of buffer material between the bark and the jack, something like a thick rubber, but I think the pressure on the trunk will be immense, so you may need a couple different materials to distribute the load.  I'm not sure exactly because I have not done any trunk splitting to do extreme bends on thick material, but this might be a good candidate if you do some investigation to see if others have done it with success.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2015, 11:23 AM »
Should be fine. You can cut an old garden hose to protect the trunk. Use tubing or hose to protect the guy wire points.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2015, 03:06 PM »
Brian Van Fleet posted to someone who was looking for something similar that he'd been less than impressed with the stone lantern jack.

http://www.bonsainut.com/index.php?threads/looking-for-kikuwa-bonsai-jack-wtb.13962/

Back to researching.  That link has a lead on another one that ought to be a little better.  We'll see what I can come up with.
 

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Re: My new Shimpaku
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2015, 03:03 PM »
Is there any danger in getting too large a jack?  I've found 14.5", 15.5" and 23.5" jacks.  The price increase isn't exactly linear, so I'm considering the largest one, though I'm unlikely to need that length in the short-term.  Will it be prohibitively large when working with smaller trees?