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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2010, 10:45 PM »
Shimsuki,
Other than just liking the tree for its obvious strengths (even when weighed against the things that will need to be improved- the jins for example, etc) the thing I like best about this tree is that it was grown in the US from a cutting by one of the best bonsai people that you will ever meet- Jim Gremel. Jim is spectacularly talented and is amazingly hard working. He has a large number of spectacular trees, many of which he started from seed/cuttings or as grafts that he has completed.

Regardless f how long that I own this tree, this tree will always be "Jim Gremel's Shimpaku".

John

I think it makes it more special that it was grown from a cutting. Totally inspiring.


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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 09:39 AM »
John,
You know as much as I do, Daisaku is in California and I am in Rhode Island. The pot is a very nice Japanese pot that when cleaned up is a really nice fit, with the bigger/old version of the tree. It looks thick with the trees sitting at angles on blocks, so will need to see what it looks like in person. I have always thought that a nice oval or blossom shaped pot could work, but it will need to be pretty nice to work.

The jins were too large before, they are going to be refined a good deal, shortened and "thinned" to bring them in scale.

John

I should clarify.  I like the old pot, but figured with the new angle you would likely change the pot as well.  Something Boon has taught us both, change the pot to change up the look and keep it fresh, new, and exciting.  I like the idea of an oval or blossom shape.  Can't wait to see it all cleaned up and ready for show.  Looking better and better.  I'm sorry I too missed Daisaku.  Thanks for sharing!
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #17 on: August 27, 2010, 08:23 AM »
There is a thread by Bwaynef, under the general topics heading, on what kind of tree can you develop in to a showable bonsai in three years. Well, this tree took 4, but it did have to be dug out of the ground first, stabilized, then styled. SO if you started with a tree that already had a reasonable root system (for a small container) then why not in three years? This tree went from raw, well developed material, to show tree in 3-4 years. Now this tree doesn't meet the price constraints, but there is very good prebonsai material (not just nursery liners that are transferred into a different pot and called prebonsai...) that can rapidly be turned into showable material, trees that can be shown many times and their improvement noted over time.
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #18 on: August 27, 2010, 08:28 AM »
THe photo this time....
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2010, 06:02 PM »
Wow John, I've really liked the pics I've seen online of this juniper, but I got to see this tree up close at my last intensive and I think the pictures just don't do it justice.   It's soooo nice!  I love it.  Congrats, really beautiful. 
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #20 on: November 10, 2010, 09:03 PM »
Thanks,
I think it is so cool that you have been doing the intensives, it is really good to see some talented Californians in the mix- I think Peter was the first. You know, I have yet to see the tree since Daisaku worked on it, new job has kept me on the east coast. Next weekend, workshops and get to see it in between pulling old needled and candle work on  the little pines........

John
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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2010, 07:36 PM »
John,

I do hope you'll share some new photos with us.  I really need to get out and see Boon's new place!

 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2010, 10:26 PM »
One week from now buddy, I have an address and a GPS....... John
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2010, 08:02 PM »
John,

I saw this and a number of your other trees at Boon's. It is amazing how much power can be seen in such a small tree!

This tree has inspired me to get some stock like this started in Australia.
I've got the years left, space to ground grow and cutting stock so Im starting the wiring.

You have a really great collection out at Boon's, it was awesome to see them in person.

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2010, 08:43 PM »
Scott,
Glad you had a good time. The trees come with time. You going to post any pics from your intensive? John
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2012, 06:17 PM »
OK, was time to get this tree back in to the BIB show, part of the documented sequence of development that the show provides. I wanted this tree to be competitive (the Kifu and Chuhin sized coniferous trees at BIB can be killer). So, I started looking for a pot. Pter Tea was looking at Aichi-en and I looked in the US. Peter found the nice Antique Chinese pot, pictured below, and I purchased it last fall. It measured quite well for a very tightly filled pot, however one the tree was out of its Yamaaki pot (its regular home gaining patina) the roots were just too big and difficult to fit in the pot (the taper from top to bottom ensure the tree wouldn't fit- may be later after a couple of more reductions of old big roots). So, friends in BIB offered up antique pots (Japanese and Chinese) and we selected this nice pot that Jonas Dupuich (bonsaitonight.com) had picked up during his seven week stay in Japan this fall (from, believe it or not, Aichi-en), Jeff S also brought in a couple of tremendous pots that would have been very, very nice as well. I really like the way the tree and pot compliment each other. Daisaku did some deadwood work and got the tree repotted at closer to the final angle- it needs to tip back even further next time. Enjoy, thanks Boon and Daisaku for the opportunity.  (second picture is of Boon and Daisaku taking pictures duering the pot selection process)
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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2012, 11:41 AM »
Looked really amazing at the show!!!  Great job!!!  :)
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2012, 01:02 PM »
That is really nice John!  And a great story behind this tree too!  It'll look even better when you shorten and thin the jins.

From cutting to that size in 15 yrs in ground?  I didn't know Shimpaku's could get that large in 15 yrs.  I bet, using a colander and high ferts, you might be able to get to the same point in 10yrs.

Either way, Jim G. did a fantastic job on developing this stock, and getting it show ready in 4 yrs?  Incredible!
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2012, 03:42 PM »
Chris, I think the jins are where they are going to be. They have been refined significantly, both Daisaku and Akio thought that they should stay relatively long, the benefit of being wired early on and then jinned. It will look better? Well it would look different anyway.

Plant some in colanders and report back in ten years if you can get a 2.5-3" trunk on a wired and pruned shimpaku. Jim does a tremendous job growing in the ground, he really puts the work in to them.
 

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Re: Jim Gremel's shimpaku
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2012, 05:02 PM »
For me John, and just my preference, would be to shorten them.  But I don't fault anyone for wanting to keep them this long.  Personel preference.

I've been told by more than one person who are far advanced from where I am, and they both said you can get faster growth in a colander and heavy fert than growing in ground for the same period of time.  And if I'm still here on earth in 10 yrs, I will report back as I have 4 rooted cuttings that I can experiment on.