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« on: October 12, 2009, 01:51 PM »

Jim was a vendor at East Bay Bonsai Society exhibit.  He brought his tree for the exhibit.  i forgot my camera.  this tree was in the pot that was too big.  i asked him to come over and pic a pot.  we picked one and this is it.
he grows this tree from cutting. 14 years old.  he has done a great job.
enjoy,
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2009, 04:52 PM »

Wow, I'd sure like to see the process by which he takes the cutting and puts such natural twists and bends in it to make it look like a yamadori shimpaku. His trees are always fantastic!
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Ross
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2009, 11:35 AM »

I bet he peeled strips of bark off when it was young and let the tree twist itself up.  This technique is shown in Lindsay Farr's World of Bonsai series 2, episode 2.

http://www.bonsaifarm.tv/

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« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2009, 12:31 PM »

Ah, no. He does quite a bit of early wiring, then plants out in the field then after it has reached the size he wants he revisits and starts to develop the shari and jin. I have one from him that I reduced back to the core twisted trunk this year, next year will begin the process of getting the shari started.

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« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2009, 02:40 PM »

Japanese will not tell you everything unless you are students and work side by side with them.
John Kirby is correct.  wiring young whips of shimpaku cutting is the key. 
no wire = no bend = no curve = poor bonsai material
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Attila Soos
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« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2009, 04:02 PM »

So, first the wiring, and later, the shari. That makes sense, since in the earliest stages, when the trunk is very thin, it is too early to create the shari. Wiring is what creates some good curves. Later, when the trunk has some volume, the shari can add to the contorted shape.

Since Ross mentioned the Lindsay Farr video, this is a question that is not related to the shimpaku, but I hope I will be forgiven for asking: There was a black pine growing field with thousand of young black pines. How ofter are they root-pruned? Every 2 to 3 years, or may be they grow much longer before getting root-pruned? Does somebody have any idea how they do this? I prune mine every 3 years, and I thought that it is not a good idea to grow them longer without root-work, but I wonder how they do it in Japan?
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2009, 02:08 PM »

I bet he peeled strips of bark off when it was young and let the tree twist itself up.  This technique is shown in Lindsay Farr's World of Bonsai series 2, episode 2.

http://www.bonsaifarm.tv/




Would this method of bark/cadmium layer removal work on pines as well to cause a twist over time?
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Ross
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« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 01:24 AM »

Would this method of bark/cadmium layer removal work on pines as well to cause a twist over time?

I think what Boon and John are saying is that a good early wiring is the important part in making nice bends in the trunk, and that shari just adds to the character.
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« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 01:27 AM »

Ah - thanks - I understand now.   Smiley
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John Kirby
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« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2010, 03:50 PM »

I know old thread, I ended up buying this tree from Jim Gremel when I was out at the BIB show. It now resides at Boon's and is going to be made a bit more compact over time, with more refined and reduced jins and more shari work. Jim worked on this tree for over 15 years, from striking as a cutting to placing in the show. He sent me a picture of the tree from 4 years agom when he was digging up out of the ground at his place.

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