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John Kirby

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« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2011, 05:50 PM »
Akio calls them "Shimpaku", but I guess he doesn't count because he is from Japan. And he wants to graft Shimpaku (his term)  on to both my big Western and the twisty Rocky Mountain I have here in CT.
 

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« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2011, 05:54 PM »
That's just because he doesn't like the sticky foliage of the Western.  ;)
 

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« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2011, 06:11 PM »
Juniperus chinensis var. Sargentii.  Perhaps a safer approach, but just as broad.  It's quite a mouthful.  I'll stick with shimpaku for the generic of the species unless traveling to Japan.  Then, I'll just point and motion towards the tree in question.

I agree but with my own twist, I will call Kishu when known Kishu, Itoigawa when known Itoigawa, and shimpaku if im not sure what it is or it may be a different variation of juniperus chinensis var. Sargentii than either kishu or itoigawa
 

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« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2011, 06:17 PM »
Akio calls them "Shimpaku", but I guess he doesn't count because he is from Japan. And he wants to graft Shimpaku (his term)  on to both my big Western and the twisty Rocky Mountain I have here in CT.

Ok so now im just going to pull your leg a little.  What kind of shimpaku does he want to graft? I think part of the issue is some people hate kishu and love itoigawa or vice versa, and to call them the exact same name "shimpaku" makes no sense. If you loved bacon but hated sausage and they were both just referred to as meat how would you order your morning breakfast? Give me eggs with a side of meat and hope for the best that they give you what you like?
 

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« Reply #34 on: October 05, 2011, 07:03 PM »
He said Shimpaku, as did Mike Hagedorn on the RMJ, I would expect that we would use the generalized Shimapku, not kishu (to slow) not Itoigawa (too fine), not Tohaku (too blue) but the generalized Shimpaku. Go eat Sausage.
 

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« Reply #35 on: October 05, 2011, 07:35 PM »
He said Shimpaku, as did Mike Hagedorn on the RMJ, I would expect that we would use the generalized Shimapku, not kishu (to slow) not Itoigawa (too fine), not Tohaku (too blue) but the generalized Shimpaku. Go eat Sausage.

Are you kidding? Or serious? i can't tell without smiley faces or mean faces
 

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« Reply #36 on: October 05, 2011, 08:31 PM »
No more ATP on this topic. Look it up.
 

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« Reply #37 on: October 05, 2011, 08:53 PM »
you never clarified whether you were joking or implying that i should go suck -----?
ATP? Adenosine Triphosphate, Ask the Planet, Assume the Position?
Also was unaware of this so-called "generalized shimpaku" that was another reason why i was wondering if you were joking or not?
 

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« Reply #38 on: October 05, 2011, 09:18 PM »
Go eat Sausage.
Patties or links?   ;D ;D

sorry, couldn't resist.

Dave (proud owner of numerous juniper bonsai, including but not limited to shimpaku ;))
 

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« Reply #39 on: October 06, 2011, 05:46 PM »
ATP- adenosine triphosphate as energy source.

Sausage- ground pork product (related to your bacon reference).

Generalized Shimpaku- those Shimpaku which are not local variants, found over the broad range.

Not joking, no hidden meanings.
 

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« Reply #40 on: October 06, 2011, 06:01 PM »
whats the relation of ATP to this thread?
And there certainly is an implied meaning when someone tells you go eat sausage. You dont know me, we are not friends, I would appreciate you not conduct yourself like a child when posting a reply on my thread.
 

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« Reply #41 on: October 06, 2011, 07:49 PM »
Easy there trigger. We're all friends here. Perhaps it's time to let this thread fade away.
 

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« Reply #42 on: October 06, 2011, 08:00 PM »
Hmm, this really isn't worth the ATP it is consuming. Junipers? Sorry Matsu.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2011, 08:12 PM by John Kirby »
 

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« Reply #43 on: October 06, 2011, 10:32 PM »
@Matsu we are friends as we have an awesome hobby/art in common, however this does not give one the right to say or imply something like that. Not to be too extreme but i would venture to say people have lost their lives do to saying something along those lines. Its inappropriate and immature. I would say i am taking it easy considering the alternative reactions or comments i could have chosen.
@John, Maybe next time try saying energy as opposed to ATP, no need to get savvy, especially given the circumstances. On one hand you want to say Shimpaku because you are lazy and on the other you choose to use ATP instead of saying energy. Cant quite figure you out. Lets let it go. I will say no more.
 

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« Reply #44 on: October 06, 2011, 10:54 PM »
Ok, that's enough.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.