Thanks guys on the compliments and tips. Wayne, since we discussed the angle on the first one in chat. I tilted it to where the base is more upright(15 degrees). Looks much better. Either it was potted at that angle or it could have shifted that way if it was shipped in the pot(doubt it since it is an import and we all know the rules for imports). The second one I goofed on tellin ya my front for the tree. I said with the "cascade" facing left. I meant facing right(last pic). It does show the tree leaning towards the viewer. I will be bringing these to the next group meeting. I went to see John today and he said the next meeting we are going to work on trees for the show. Came home with a bag of Haydite and a bag of lava along with some little goodies

He knows I can't leave there without buying something with leaves on it LOL.
Chris, I wish I did have pics of them in bloom. I missed this years flowers. Work being a(your choice of choice words here) and trying to get yardwork done(upto par) missed it. By the time I noticed they were in bloom about 90% of the flowers had withered. That was one of the things I discussed with John when I went to see him. Trying to remember what cultivar they both are. I'm pretty sure I have the name tags just don't know where. Only thing John could do was look in a book with all the flower varieties but since don't know what the flowers look like it would like playing a game of darts in the dark.