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Species Specific => Satsuki Azalea Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Dave Murphy on November 22, 2010, 08:05 AM

Title: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on November 22, 2010, 08:05 AM
I acquired this tree almost two years ago, right after it was imported/bare rooted.  Other then removing a portion of the lowest left branch and some minor pruning and wiring, I've let it rest until this week.  I've started to wire out the canopy.  Hopefully, I'll get it into a training pot this spring.

Dave
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on November 22, 2010, 08:17 AM
Here's a pic of the nebari.  I can't wait to see it in a pot.  This tree is a beast.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: John Kirby on November 22, 2010, 11:17 AM
nice.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on November 22, 2010, 06:05 PM
Thanks, John.  It's nice for sure, but after spending 12 hours wiring and still having another 3-4 to go, I've come to realize it's too damn big.  I wish I didn't like the real large ones...they are slowly killing me ;D.

Dave
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on November 24, 2010, 05:50 PM
Finally finished.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: roelex14 on November 27, 2010, 06:14 PM
have you considered removing the lower left branch? here's a quick virt
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on November 28, 2010, 09:29 AM
Thanks for the virt Noissee.  Actually, I have considered removing that branch.  My plan is to let another branch grow out just above that lowest branch, on that first outer curve.  Until the new branch reaches a patrticular size, I'd want the lowest branch to remain.  Generally speaking, I actually would want more foliage on the left side instead of less, to balance the tree.  I do like your virt, though, very dynamic image, just not what I have planned for this particular tree.  Thanks again,

Dave
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: shimsuki on December 10, 2010, 12:18 AM
Dave,

Nice Material! Eikan is a variety, like Kaho and etc., that have big flowers, so the fact that this is a big tree is a plus. It looks like you did a good job wiring the pads, in the future you need to get the tree looking more proportional in my opinion. What I mean is you have a diamond shape, but in bonsai we like triangles as you know. In the future cut back the long upper branches and let the lower ones grow out.

Just my thoughts and opinions,

Andrew
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on December 10, 2010, 07:17 AM
Hey Shim, thanks for the post.  I will be refining the branching somewhat, as the lower branches need to thicken and lengthen a bit.  At this point, I don't envision a typical triangle shaped tree here (at least right now).  The upper left branch (the long one) is the most important branch as it dictates the movement of the tree.  Cutting it back to create that triangle image would completely change the image and remove much character that the tree has right now.  It will hopefully look more presentable in a pot this spring.  Thanks again,

Dave
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on February 25, 2011, 08:06 PM
This tree was re-potted today ;D.  Despite the cold winter, which damaged some of the foliage, buds started moving earlier this week.

Here is the tree pulled out of the nursery can.  You can see the root system had recovered nicely from the bare rooting from several years ago.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on February 25, 2011, 08:10 PM
This is the tree in an oversized mica pot.  I could have squeezed the roots into a nice chinese pot I have, but I would have needed a shoehorn to do it, and I figured the tree could use some leg room to maintain/increase it's vigor.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: MatsuBonsai on March 01, 2011, 08:01 PM
Looking good, Dave.  What's do you have in mind as a next step for this one?  I would like to see the pot you have picked out for it.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 02, 2011, 06:54 AM
Thanks, John.  My plan is to let some of the lower branches thicken up a bit while improvingthe pads, mainly on the apex.  As far as it's next pot, I have an oval unglazed chinese container that is probably a smidge too small for this one, I think.  It measures 21" wide and is 5" deep, but the trunk on this one is just so big, it seems to dwarf the pot.  If I may ask, what pot would you consider for this one?

Dave
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 10, 2011, 07:28 AM
This is a pot avaiable thru Osiga.com.  The size is right- 21" by 16" by 6.75".  Opinions?
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Don Blackmond on March 10, 2011, 07:49 AM
Personally, I like glazed pots for satsuki.  They tend to keep the kanuma/roots moist longer than unglazed pots.  I also like pots with more detail, whether  lines, lip, feet, etc.  Satsuki are display trees, and this includes the pot, imo.

I think the pot you have selected is perfectly fine for your tree, provided the dimensions are correct.  Keep the pads clean and layers separated and your tree will be a beautiful display.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Jay on March 10, 2011, 10:15 AM
Dave, I am not familiar with Osiga.com. I checked out the site and could have interest. What do we know of their product? And without calling do you know what their shipping cost are approx.
Thanks for giving me what info you have
Jay
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 10, 2011, 02:32 PM
Thanks, Don.  I enjoy satsukis in both glazed and unglazed pots.  I'm leaning more toward an unglazed pot for this one for two main reasons- 1) Personally, I feel the big, gnarly trunked azaleas look better in unglazed, earthtoned pots, much like a juniper wood, and 2) The only descent glazed pots large enough for this tree that I can find are tokoname and are a bit too expensive for me, at this point.  I may purchase a nice one down the road, we'll see.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 10, 2011, 02:36 PM
Jay, my understanding is that Osiga imports and re-sells good quality chinese pots.  I have never had a pot from them shipped to me, but I do own one purchased at a show, and it's a nice pot for a descent price.  I have heard others, both here at BSG and elsewhere say similar things concerning both the quality of the product as well as good customer service.  I'd reccommend them.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Jay on March 10, 2011, 05:09 PM
Dave, thanks for the input. I'll be needing a large oval pot next season...I'll let you know how it goes
J
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: MatsuBonsai on March 10, 2011, 09:21 PM
I've got a few shohin pots from Osiga.  Pretty good quality, for inexpensive Chinese pots.

I've also got a big azalea in an unglazed pot.  I'm not growing for the showy flowers, so prefer it (for now) for my particular tree.  Changing pots can be a great opportunity to change the look of the tree, too.  Perhaps later I'll change my mind and go for a glazed container.  Fun stuff.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 02, 2012, 07:08 PM
Well, it's re-potting time and Yen at Osiga hooked me up with a nice pot for my azalea.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Don Blackmond on March 03, 2012, 08:05 AM
looks good. i like the pot choice.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on March 03, 2012, 01:46 PM
Thanks Don...I'm never really comfortable purchasing a pot for a specific tree online but I think the size/style and color are all good matches here.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on May 06, 2012, 09:09 PM
I was hoping to have this tree in the Atlanta Bonsai Society club show in just less then 2 weeks, but because of the winter that never was, the tree is blooming a few weeks early.  I'll still probably brng it, but it won't have many blooms on it.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: John Kirby on May 07, 2012, 10:40 AM
Very nice Dave!
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on May 07, 2012, 02:34 PM
Thanks John.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: JRob on May 07, 2012, 07:24 PM
Dave,

Very Nice. I am having the same problem. I was hoping to show a couple of Satsuki at our spring show the weekend of the 19th but this week everything peaked. Shucks! maybe next year the weather will be kinder.

JRob
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on May 07, 2012, 08:10 PM
Thanks Jrob...as you say, maybe next year the timing will be better.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: MatsuBonsai on May 07, 2012, 09:17 PM
Another Tree of the Month contestant?  Give JRob a run for his money?  ;)
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on June 30, 2013, 08:52 AM
Well, this year the timing wasn't any better.  Due to the cool late winter and spring we had here in the SE, the flower buds were as tight as could be come show time last month.  It really wasn't in full bloom until early June.  It still made the show, and Boon, who conducted the judging, liked it enough to award it first place for the enthusiast class.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Leo in NE Illinois on July 01, 2013, 02:03 PM
I bet it was spectacular in bloom. Very nice.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on July 04, 2013, 08:21 AM
Thanks Leo.  For good or for bad, I've got some not so good pictures of when it was in bloom, from the top, side, and front.
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Dave Murphy on July 04, 2013, 08:27 AM
A few close up shots of the blooms...
Title: Re: My "Eikan"
Post by: Leo in NE Illinois on July 04, 2013, 12:26 PM
Outstanding tree, powerful trunk, and lovely flowers. I like the full, and ruffled look to the flowers. Your tree is large and imposing enough that the full flowers are not over the top. For shohin azaleas, the smaller, less full flowers are usually better. Your tree is really nice.