Author Topic: Ponderosa needing a bend  (Read 25381 times)

Adair M

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 622
  • Thanked: 6 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2014, 09:02 PM »
I had the tree wired into the pot well, but it was one of those situations where you put in a block of wood to help stabilize the tree.  All that was wired in.  But when the gardener knocked it over, and then tried to "fix it" himself, he messed it up.  The only reason I noticed was I turned it around so the other side could get some sun, and the trunk wiggled.  I never let them do that.  So then I found it was loose in the pot.  Which led me to investigate the ground under the tree, and I found  spilt bonsai soil under the freshly spread pine bark nuggets.  Ah HA!  So, I asked the wife, she told me he was spreading pine bark, and knocked it, but it was ok, he "fixed it".  Uh, not so much.  This all happened when I was away at a Boon Intensive, and I didn't find out for a couple weeks!  Oh, well...

Sorry, didn't get a pic today.  I was bushhogging.  Now my butt is sore, and I've got poison ivy!  Maybe tomorrow...
 

Chrisl

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 897
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2014, 11:20 AM »
Bushhogging??  Ok, I know that's work, but I bet it's pretty fun for the first 30 mins! ;))  A man and his play toys....speaking of myself lol

Well Adair, you were lucky then to have discovered his 'repair' work.  Glad things worked out for you in the end!

Chris
 

Adair M

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 622
  • Thanked: 6 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2014, 12:43 PM »
Chrisl,

The first 15 minutes are pretty hairy.  It's 10.5 acres, sloped.  Rolling a bit.  But on one side, it's reasonably steep, and the edge of the property drops off into a creek.  This is an erosion creek, and the edge is sudden.  The object is to get close to the edge, but not fall in, as it would tip the tractor over.  Problem is, the weeds/brush is so thick, you cant see the edge.  On the other side of the property, there's a smaller one.  Even harder to see, it's only about a foot wide, and about a foot deep.  Drop a wheel in there, you're stuck. Even with 4 wheel drive. 

So the first cut around the property is a "high blood pressure" moment.  After that, you have 8 hours of mindless circling breathing diesel fumes, swatting bugs, ducking under the occasional tree branch, getting dusted by windborne grass and poison ivy shrapnel, and listening to the drone of the diesel engine.  It takes about 15 minutes to circle the property one pass.  Oh the joys of hobby farming!

You learn to keep your mouth closed.  As you pass thru the pasture, you disturb the bugs.  They take their vengeance by flying into your face.  I'm glad I wear glasses.  And, I've learned to keep my mouth shut.  The hard way.  The birds circle you like the seagulls around a fishing boat.  Catching bugs.

I can't sit there and do it in one shot, or even one day.  The ground is rough.  It used to be cow pasture.  But there are lots of pot holes that you can't see covered in grass.  But they beat you up.  This year, I did it in three passes:  2 two hour passes, and yesterday I just decided to "Git'er done", with a 4 hour marathon.

I do it twice a year.  I'm late doing the "spring" cutting.  I'll do it again in the fall so it will look good for the winter.
 

Adair M

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 622
  • Thanked: 6 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2014, 02:29 PM »
As promised, an updated photo. As you can see this year's needles are already twice as long as last years. I'm hoping it means its healthy and getting stronger.
 

Potawatomi13

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2015, 05:21 AM »
That's a nice looking tree.  Just don't get crazy removing foliage or buds.  I've got some Randy Knight Yamadori Ponderosas and one is an absolute treasure.  I'm fertilizing like crazy to insure it survives.   The buds are growing and needles lengthening but I'm not so sure the needles look as green as I'd like hence foliar feeding at least twice a week if it's not raining.
 

Chrisl

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 897
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #20 on: May 26, 2015, 10:42 AM »
Your getting there Adair!  This yr is an explosion of back buds on two PP's, even one I just gave the initial potting out of pumice this yr.  The only thing I changed was to start using akadama last spring, otherwise I have no idea why they are gang busters this yr.

Here's one, potted last yr, and styled in '12? It's languished really till this yr prob due to over working it in that first styling. (darn, forgot I shot them vertically, sorry)
 

Potawatomi13

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2015, 04:53 AM »
Any chance of some better pics of these trees? Please?
 

Chrisl

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 897
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2015, 10:46 AM »
Here they are, excuse the mess in the back, I'm staining the cement next week a dark gray.

 

Potawatomi13

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2015, 06:55 AM »
What mess?  Thank you.  I like your tree.  While at first it looks a little awkward it also looks like you're on your way to changing that.  Most of our Yamadori do look that way. Do you have an estimated age for your tree by any chance?
« Last Edit: May 31, 2015, 07:00 AM by Potawatomi13 »
 

Chrisl

  • Hero Forum Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 897
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2015, 10:51 AM »
The second one?  I believe it's only 200 yrs, though I'm not sure to be honest. 

The tree's branching is hard to see, the older needles are long as I fed the hell out of it last couple of yrs, this yr is the first I"m holding off on ferts till elongation is complete. 
 

Potawatomi13

  • Jr. Forum Member
  • **
  • Posts: 64
  • Thanked: 3 times
Re: Ponderosa needing a bend
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2015, 05:33 AM »
ONLY 200 years?  Realize do you how funny that sounds? ::)