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Grafting Ponderosa

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Yenling83:
A few things I’ve been thinking about lately.  I’d appreciate your opinion on these questions below.  I’ve actually never owned a Ponderosa or other high mountain 1 flush pine, so I’m not exactly sure how they would do in my climate which has a relatively short dormant period.  However, I did just get my first one.  Thanks!

1.   Would you ever consider grafting a different type of foliage onto Ponderosa Pine?

2.   If Yes or No what type of foliage would graft on to Ponderosa if you had to?

3.   What do you think about grafting Black Pine onto Ponderosa?

4.   Let’s say you lived in an area where 2 flush pines like Black pine did fantastic, but High Mountain 1 flush Ponderosas just did so so.  Do you think the overall health of the Ponderosa grafted with Black Pine would be better than Ponderosa with its natural foliage?  I’ve heard of California Junipers surviving in Japan when both the foliage and roots were grafter with Shimpaku.      

Dan W.:
Michael Hagedorn has ponderosa's that have been grafted with both Japanese red and black pine foliage. The trees that have been grafted for some time, and styled, look great. I will be grafting some of my smaller ponderosa's for tighter foliage. If you need to, I'm sure grafting roots would work too... it works for JWP.

You might want to email Michael too.

Chrisl:

--- Quote from: Dan W. on October 21, 2013, 07:20 PM ---Michael Hagedorn has ponderosa's that have been grafted with both Japanese red and black pine foliage. The trees that have been grafted for some time, and styled, look great. I will be grafting some of my smaller ponderosa's for tighter foliage. If you need to, I'm sure grafting roots would work too... it works for JWP.

You might want to email Michael too.

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I look forward to seeing those Dan.  I want to learn grafting for sure.  Are you going to try this next spring? 

bwaynef:

--- Quote from: Yenling83 on October 21, 2013, 07:05 PM ---1.   Would you ever consider grafting a different type of foliage onto Ponderosa Pine?
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It becomes a design decision.  If protocol can't produce the foliage necessary, I'd have to attempt grafting.


--- Quote ---2.   If Yes or No what type of foliage would graft on to Ponderosa if you had to?
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I'd consider JRP, another (more) manageable native pine, or JBP, ...probably in that order.


--- Quote --- 3.   What do you think about grafting Black Pine onto Ponderosa?
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I'm not against it.


--- Quote ---4.   Let’s say you lived in an area where 2 flush pines like Black pine did fantastic, but High Mountain 1 flush Ponderosas just did so so.  Do you think the overall health of the Ponderosa grafted with Black Pine would be better than Ponderosa with its natural foliage?  I’ve heard of California Junipers surviving in Japan when both the foliage and roots were grafter with Shimpaku.  
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Pure conjecture, but probably.  On second thought, disregard that.

John Kirby:
I have grafted a number of ponderosas, some successfully some not so much. I have a couple with JBP on them, I would really like to get them with a good robust JWP like Miyajima. Guess that is something to try this winter.....

John

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