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shimsuki

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acer palmatum sango kaku
« on: March 16, 2010, 04:20 PM »
Has anyone ever heard of or think that coral bark japanese maple, aka acer palmatum sango kaku, would be a good species for bonsai. They have red bark, which make them a popular plant in the winter time. This species is becoming popular in the gardening world, and I was wondering of what you all thought of one as a bonsai.

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 04:32 PM »
I have some Sango Kaku seedlings (i know, but they seem to have a LOT of the same characteristics so far) that I'm going to develop. 

I don't think Sango Kaku is a particularly vigorous grower, as most red-foliaged (or tinged) trees don't seem to be (since the chlorophyll isn't there to convert light to food) but its no slouch either.  I bet in spite of that, there's some potential.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 05:05 PM »
I have some Sango Kaku seedlings (i know, but they seem to have a LOT of the same characteristics so far) that I'm going to develop. 

I don't think Sango Kaku is a particularly vigorous grower, as most red-foliaged (or tinged) trees don't seem to be (since the chlorophyll isn't there to convert light to food) but its no slouch either.  I bet in spite of that, there's some potential.

The sango kaku variety has lime green leaves.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 07:26 PM »
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 08:26 PM »
The sango kaku variety has lime green leaves.

I beg to differ with you:

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/factsheets/trees-new/acer_palmatum_sangokaku.html

Before you beg...you should see one for yourself. I have one in my backyard. The leaves are brilliant lime green. This is an awesome tree.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 08:37 PM »
I beg to differ with you

"Leaf color is a bright tone of green" (pg. 136 Japanese Maples second edition by J.D. Vertrees) One of the best japanese maple books.

http://www.mobot.org/gardeninghelp/images/low/D356-0903091gk.jpg Missouri Botanical Gardens

http://www.iseli-nursery.com/photopages/AcerpalmatumSangoKaku.htm Iseli Nursery, well known nursery in Oregon

"Foliage Color: Light Green" http://www.monrovia.com/plant-catalog/plants/37/coral-bark-japanese-maple.php Monrovia Nursery



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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2010, 08:40 PM »
Before you beg...you should see one for yourself. I have one in my backyard. The leaves are brilliant lime green. This is an awesome tree.

We replied at the same time.


Al,
Do you think it would make a good bonsai, or would the red bark be unappealing?


Shim
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2010, 11:53 PM »
long internodes, tough in containers. Great tree for a young guy to struggle with.

John

(Bill Valvanis probably has a great one in a bonsai pot......)
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 01:25 AM »
I have seen small ones, never any with any caliper in the trunk.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 10:56 AM »
I am thinking of doing a trunk chop on one.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 01:45 PM »
My tree in my backyard is fairly fast grower. Has leaves like shishigashira in clumps and branches grow quite fast. Don't know how trunks fatten up though, too soon to tell since this is the third spring since I planted it. I did take some seed last year, a handfull at best, but will plant those out this week. see what I get.

Will keep you imformed of their progress.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 06:24 PM »
Here is a picture of one that I bought as a Bonsai started from nursery stock about 15 years ago, it was grafted about 4 or 5 inches from the root spread. They do not seem to root well so I think that most are grown by grafting.
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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 07:22 PM »
Bought one a few weeks ago at Home Depot. Trimmed the roots and potted it right up. We'll see how it does in a Bonsai pot, if not well then into the ground it goes. Thanks Ken, yours looks pretty good and healthy. Does the branches on yours get coral, says it needs cold to get good color. Don.
 

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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2010, 01:51 AM »
I have a very large one still in a fifteen gallon nursery pot. I have tried to airlayer off some of the tree for 3 years. For various reasons I have been unsucessful but will try again on another section this year. After this last attempt I'll finally start working on my original plan, to bonsai the bottom part of this tree. The trunk is over 3 inches but I haven't dug down to see what kind of nebari I may be dealing with. I have found it to be pretty much typical Japanese maple stock, average water, average fertalizer, ect.
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Re: acer palmatum sango kaku
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2010, 06:31 AM »
Hi Don, thank You. The new twigs stay red but seem to fade in color as they age, also this tree has been in the shade all winter and the Sun helps with the color.
Ken