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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #15 on: July 21, 2011, 04:37 PM »
Ok whatever you say.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2011, 04:42 PM »
Buff,

The age of the tree isn't what's important.  What's important is the age the tree conveys.  Figure out how best to convey great age in your tree and you'll be much happier for it.  Time will add (more) mature flaky bark.  Proper needle/candle management will reduce the overly large needles and help increase ramification.  Your eye will improve and you begin to see what makes a good tree a good tree.

Continue to seek out advice and digest the wealth of information available these days.  And by all means, keep us posted on your progress.

Good luck.
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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #17 on: July 21, 2011, 04:54 PM »
What ever y'all want to think is kewl. I've been told it was 60 years old and I have seen some that were older that were skinnyier then mine. Y would ben oki say it's age and lie bout it eh?  But it's all good.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #18 on: July 21, 2011, 05:01 PM »
You are correct, thickness does not necessarily convey age. 

As has been said, you have a good tree to work with.  Now, you are tasked with improving it.  How do you do that?  Get the needle length in check, increase ramification, and keep the tree healthy.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #19 on: July 21, 2011, 05:02 PM »
Also, I'm curious.  What do others in your area that are practicing Spring and Fall candle removal report as the advantages?  What improvements are they seeing in their trees?
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #20 on: July 21, 2011, 07:25 PM »
John, I read somewhere that if one cuts the fall candles in half, you get more buds in the spring.  But I haven't tried it.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #21 on: July 21, 2011, 07:35 PM »
ARRRGHHHHHHHH
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2011, 07:38 PM »
Something I said?? hehe

I have Boons videos on the JBP, and I'm just going to follow his technique.  I've watched it now several times and each time I pick up something I missed before.  Great guidance to dunces like me!
 

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« Reply #23 on: July 21, 2011, 07:42 PM »
Chris,

I think you miss the point.  There are a number of very experienced members here with JBP spending time and energy in an attempt to help Buff.  He says his club members are using a different technique with great success.  I (and perhaps others) would like to see the results for my(our)self(ves).  As it stands, great results have been presented (and apparently ignored).

Adding "I read somewhere" and "I think I heard someone" adds nothing to an already downhill thread.

Sad.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #24 on: July 21, 2011, 08:20 PM »
I apologize. It is really very simple to make good JBP if you follow the well established bud and needle management plan, prune and wire appropriately, and repot the tree appropriately and fertilize as recommended. There really isn't anything else to do, new techniques can come along that are quite good, and when presented with timeline pictures, etc, may be adopted and used. My only goal is for folks to have as much enjoyment from their trees as I get from mine, if not more, because they respond well and predictably. I will only say, that instead of trying to create a new or alternate method, why not master what works well and has been validated by many- then step out and build something new. Diatribe over, John
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #25 on: July 21, 2011, 09:25 PM »
Thanks again everyone for your help. This tree means alot to me because of who gave it to me. Ill be treating it the same for the rest of the summer and decandle in the fall like its been treated before then next summer ill decandle. Ill probably be on here asking for more help but im planning on buying the dvds of boons. I already have the decandling from his which started all this confusion for me...  ;D. Ill be posting the progression of this tree as the years progress it.
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #26 on: July 21, 2011, 10:34 PM »
I'm sorry John/MatsuBonsai, you raised a good point.  I'll stop any further here-say.  I too like to see a tree's development over time, and with different techniques, with pics.  One of the great things of the net ;)  And it furthers the hobby in

John K.  Well said.   It does come down to the enjoyment of our trees.  From masterpieces to a beginner's first bonsai.  I know I derive much enjoyment working with my trees, from the ones I know very well, and other trees I'm just getting to know.

Chris
 

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Re: spring and fall compared to just summer decandling....?
« Reply #27 on: July 22, 2011, 10:21 AM »
Sounds like you have a good plan Buff.  I think you will find that if you follow the techniques in Boon's videos you will develop shorter needles and branch ramification, both of which will make your tree 'look' better.