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Species Specific => Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: John Kirby on November 25, 2010, 04:53 PM

Title: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Kirby on November 25, 2010, 04:53 PM
This is a little tree that came in a group of trees I got from Don Blackmond last winter. I repotted the tree after it came in, the pot was intended to help he tree to develop a more robust root system. It will be repotted this winter in to a more appropriate pot. I really like this little tree, great taper, great bark, nice tree.

Jphn
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: JRob on November 25, 2010, 06:36 PM
Gotta love Don's trees. I know I do!

JRob
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Kirby on November 26, 2010, 09:29 AM
Yep, came with a great trunk and great bark. 3-4 yers and the brnches should be in place. I have always enjoyed my inreractions with Don, a real gentkean in the best sense.

John
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Kirby on January 17, 2011, 07:44 PM
A little progress, the little tree is now in a new pot and coming along- 2-3 years and it could be pretty good. Thanks to Inge W for setting up the shohin display and PeterT for the use of his very nice little root stand.
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Romano on January 17, 2011, 07:47 PM
Was this a display in the show John?
john r
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Kirby on January 17, 2011, 09:25 PM
John, yes it was the side piece to the 5 place shohin rack, on the left, following the flow. John
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: akeppler on January 18, 2011, 12:58 AM
Sorry about the light thru the window
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: nathanbs on April 28, 2011, 03:02 PM
can it be considered a cascade if the lowest branch is still above the edge of the pot?
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: John Kirby on April 28, 2011, 06:37 PM
You can call it what ever you want. John
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: nathanbs on April 28, 2011, 11:15 PM
ok?? but isnt there a defining line between slant, semi cascade and cascade? Just curious what the "book" says. Not trying to bust your balls
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: Treebeard55 on April 29, 2011, 10:05 AM
Nice tree, John! The new pot definitely works with it...Maybe some day I'll have a chance to see it in person. I've told Princene we need to visit the east coast, so I can stop in and see your trees, John Romano's, Carl Rosner's --  ;D

Nathan, I'm not sure what the "book" says. The "working definitions" I personally use are:
slanting -- the trunk's overall line is more than 30 degrees above horizontal;
semi-cascade -- the trunkline dips below horizontal, but more than half the trunk's mass is above the soil line;
full cascade -- more than half the trunk's mass falls below the soil line.

My list does leave gray areas, I know; sometimes it's a judgment call. Anyone else have comments on this point?
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: Don Blackmond on April 29, 2011, 10:29 AM
typically, semi-cascade means dipping below the rim of the pot.  looking in books, even the Bonsai Today Pines book, shows loose application of the term.  This tree has a cascading branch that is a significant design characteristic, so I'd say its ok to call it semi-cascade.  Or you could call it moyogi.

Its looking good John.  The new pot is a little narrow for my taste, but it sure sets off the base and trunk.
Title: Re: shohin semi cascade JBP
Post by: nathanbs on April 29, 2011, 04:35 PM
thank you. Its very nice none the less.