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scottroxburgh
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« on: November 21, 2012, 07:12 PM »

So I watched this video last night and Ryan mentions that it is important to leave some old needles on two needle pines due to the hormones they produce.

I have not heard this before and thought that there may be some ideas as to why this is important?



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Herman
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2012, 01:27 AM »

Found it very interesting scot, thnx for the link

What I found most interesting is the technique he talks about for decandling black pine, by reducing needles all over the tree to equal the needles on the weakest branch and then to decandle all over the tree at the same time.

I believe he was talking about red pine when he said to leave some older needles, because red pines are not as vigorous as black pine
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2012, 02:53 AM »

ryan wasn't lying when he 128 mile per hour crash course rally full of information thanks for sharing your find
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 02:02 PM »

If you go to youtube, there are hours of video's of his demo's. You can probably write a pretty good book on the info you can pick up watching those vid's. The info he gives out is the cutting edge stuff of what he learned in college and what the latest techniques being done in japan where he studied.
 Many of the things he teaches is very different than what we have been taught to do. We only need to alter the timing to our climate. I have been told by Ryan that when you see the trees in Japan, what strikes you is how vibrant, alive and healthy they look. The Japanese have learned through trial and error what to do and we are lucky to get that info.
 I have mentioned the video's by Owen Reich and Bjorn also. If you have not seen those, you should! I'm too computer lame to be able to post a link to them, but perhaps Owen or someone else can. I know they have been posted on this board previously.
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 02:59 PM »

So I watched this video last night and Ryan mentions that it is important to leave some old needles on two needle pines due to the hormones they produce.

I have not heard this before and thought that there may be some ideas as to why this is important?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ngvzuN-F4

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Hi Scott,
For tree in training or the tree that is thin or weak area we do not remove all of the old needle. Take off old needles that grow downward.  This is the same basic principle.
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nathanbs
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 02:12 AM »

My understanding is that the new needles are your photosynthetic material and your old needles are your hormone producing material to help encourage back budding among other things.
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