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bwaynef

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Rooting JBP candles
« on: April 08, 2011, 08:57 AM »
Does anyone have any experience rooting JBP from candles?  I'd like to give it a go, but have only heard that its possible (with differing opinions of what possible means). 

I'll take educated guesses if that's all I have to work with. 
 

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Re: Rooting JBP candles
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2011, 09:50 AM »
There is an old Golden Statements that shows air layering of JBP candles, I know George Muranaka does it. The problem I see with it, and I got a really good sense of this speaking with Jim Gremel, is that the trunks are too straight to make good trees. You really are better off just going back to the seed.

I have seen people with JBP cuttings in trays, don' know if any of them resulted in trees.  I have seen it work with Zuisho JWP, I did a few and sold them while vending.

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Re: Rooting JBP candles
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2011, 09:53 AM »
I'll have to check that Golden Statements out, but I thought it was possible (or there was discussion of its possibility) to treat the candle as a cutting and have it throw roots.  Any thoughts?
 

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Re: Rooting JBP candles
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2011, 10:48 AM »
It's possible.  I've seen trays of cuttings as well, but not any "finished" trees that were advertised as cutting grown.  I asked Boon one time if I should try cuttings of a cork bark I have or grafting to seedlings.  He was quick to reply grafting.  I'm not sure if this is a strength thing, or speed of growth, or what. 

But, I'm with John Kirby, seeds or grafting (for the odd cultivars) for me.
 

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Re: Rooting JBP candles
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2011, 01:56 PM »
Does anyone have any experience rooting JBP from candles?  I'd like to give it a go, but have only heard that its possible (with differing opinions of what possible means). 

I'll take educated guesses if that's all I have to work with. 

As already voiced by others, and I agree,the best method for small amounts of plants of JPB is grafting for cultivars and Seed.  I must note here that some Pine species are cutting grown with fairly good results even on a commercial scale. Tests UC Davis and University of Georgia show that the following list of pine species can be cutting grown if you have the appropriate propagation equipment and environment.

Pinus radiata, Pinus contorta, Pinus mugo, Pinus strobus, Pinus taeda
 

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Re: Rooting JBP candles
« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2011, 12:48 AM »
Hey Wayne did you ever find the link to that golden statments online?

There was a guy selling JBP 'kotobuki' cutting grown on ebay a month or so ago.  I'd love to try rooting a kotobuki, but heard you need a mist system.