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Species Specific => Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 07:59 AM

Title: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 07:59 AM
This tree was acquired from the sale pile at the local nursery. It was in the sale pile because it is obvious that during it's early years once side was shaded and died back. The compactness of the tree allow little light to the interior and albeit not suitable for the landscape, suitable for our passion.

Not much was carried out on this tree. The pot was lifted to inspect the roots (with eyes only). The root ball is nice and healthy and mychorizea is well established. All dead branches where removed, stubs where left where jins may be in the future. All dead branching was was removed from the interior. All upward and downward growing branches were also removed at this time. Back budding is proliferous throughout the tree, where foliage has died off due to insufficient light gaining access to the tree interior. Now the tree is nice and open therefore these new shoots should develop nicely in the years to come.

The whorls are fat (something I did not care for) but that is to be expected from landscape grown trees, or even yamadori. How we deal with them in the future is more important. The tree will be left to recover and will be placed in a grow box next spring.

I saw a bunjin in this tree and welcome any other suggestions on direction to go with this.

The tree developed a twin trunk (branch) half way up the tree the trunkline chosen is the one on the left. The right may be jined at a later date, or totally removed and the area carved out to reduce the reverse taper happening there.
Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 08:10 AM
Some thing that wasn't captured in the photos was the trunk movement. I took shots about every 10 degrees of rotation and although visible on the bench, the movement is flattened in 2 D. Those pictures that were uselsss were discarded.

The following picture shows the bend at the juncture that can be accentuated in future design considerations. The tree is remarkably flexible. Trunk base of 3 inches with a height from soil at 34 inches. This tree does not have a 6:1 ratio nor do I believe I wish to apply it here. It has close to a 12:1 ration which makes it suitable for a bunjin (maybe wrong word, but I don't see a literati there neither).

The second pic shows a better appreciation of the trunk line albeit difficult from photos.

The third pic shows the movement quite nicely and once the foliage has compacted and chaced back to the trunk should make an interesting bunjin.

As stated this is a long term project 5-10 years. It will be left to recuperate and grow unhindered for the next couple of years with the exception of energy re-distribution during the growths cycles. All future design consideration, comments and visions are welcomed, along with virts for those capable of expressing their views in that fashion.

Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: MatsuBonsai on August 20, 2009, 01:56 PM

I would like to see the base of this one.  Do you have any more pictures to share?  Did you snap any shots while inspecting the roots?
Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 02:03 PM

the main photos ( can be seen there. I took 30 some odd shots, what you see are the best.

We are in the middle of a heat wave so I have not disturbed much. The roots will not be problematic, hence pot position. I will now more this spring of course, when I will be a little more intrusive. The trunk will be accentuated to accommodate the roots in the future, should the roots prove to be a problem. The reason this tree is on my bench is because it has potential.

Until I can develop it into "its" full potential, it will be only given TLC and the required energy re-distribution..
Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: John Kirby on August 20, 2009, 02:39 PM
Well, halfway or all the way. I think you will continue to get swelling at the points where you have whorls and you left "useless" branches. The second trunk should go now before it gives you reverse taper, finish the cutting and don't mess with it until next year.

Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 02:58 PM

Thanks for the feedback. The second trunk has already caused reverse taper. I am keeping it (my thoughts, since the damage is already done) until spring anyway. At which time it will be cut off, to induce bud break on the main trunk. In the mean time it is helping to maintain energy (my thought) for the tree. Quite a bit has been removed (energy focus)

Your thoughst??
Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: John Kirby on August 20, 2009, 03:37 PM
it looks like the lower stuff may be toast, I would finish the job, just be a little careful with water and fertilizer (don't) until you se new growth. If the tree pops back in the fall it may make your reverse taper problem worse. Since you aren't wiring, it should be fine.

Title: Re: Pinus Sylvestries (Scots Pine)
Post by: Rick Moquin on August 20, 2009, 10:05 PM
Gotcha John! I don't think much will happen this fall. I belive with what I have done so far that the tree's energy will be "RE-DISTRIBUTED" with what remains. Late winter I intend to shock it further prior to spring flush.

My attitude wrt new acquisition is sink or sqim, and I believe this one is wearing 2 life jackets  ;) :D IOW it shows great potential to spring back and do what it is suppose to do although it hasn't read the book. ;)