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Species Specific => Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Steven on September 25, 2009, 02:14 PM

Title: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 25, 2009, 02:14 PM
Just got this in today. Spent a month paying on it and now it is here. Aquired this tree from Davesbonsai(D. Weaver). The tree itself is George Muranaka stock. Dave already wired this pine so I'm not the one who wired it. I believe Dave said he has had this pine a couple of yrs. He actually had this tree listed twice with no takers. So I contacted him knowing he was in need of cash. I was in need of some good stock that I could afford. So, to me, it worked out well.
 Dims: 10 inches tall, 12 inches wide, 3 inch trunk and 6 inch nebari(even though ya don't see it) and estimated at 20 yrs of age. All are his dimensions not mine. Will check those though.
 Dave listed it as a Shohin and said he did some research and found 10" is the cutoff point. I wouldn't be disappointed if it wasn't Shohin.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 25, 2009, 02:23 PM
more pics
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 25, 2009, 02:25 PM
last 2. The last one is a different pic not the same as the very first one
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on March 02, 2010, 07:18 PM
Warning: this topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
Unless you're sure you want to reply, please consider starting a new topic.

What's that all about?  ^^^^^ What happens if I ignore that warning?

Anyway, thought I would post some older and new pics of this tree. First couple of pics shows the tree last fall after a little needle thinning. The pics also show a possible pot I may use for the tree down the road. I know alot of you out there would absolutely never approve of such a pot, but this is MY tree.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on March 02, 2010, 07:35 PM
Here are a few pics of the repot done at our club meeting on Feb 27th. I want to get the roots better and the tree more healthy so I purchased this mica drum at the meeting. Yes it is oversized a tad but I don't think this tree is ready for a bonsai pot. I still have a ways to go with this tree. I changed the planting angle to where I want it. I then worked on removing some ugly roots that bulge from the base. One of our members suggested, after asking me where I wanted to go with the tree, of a semi-cascade. That possibility may save the left branch. I know as an informal upright(before the angle change) that branch sits too low on the trunk. I'd hate to graft and be set back further in developing this tree. Anyway, thought I'd show updates.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: shimsuki on March 02, 2010, 10:31 PM
After a little needle reduction and wound healing, that will be a great tree.

Shimsuki
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: rockm on March 03, 2010, 08:16 AM
I think you made a much better pot choice in the end. Once the roots are under control, I'd look for a similar slightly smaller drum pot.

The yellow pot was a bit garish for such a wabi sabi tree.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on March 03, 2010, 05:22 PM
Thanks. Drums are nice but ho-hum imo. But I will keep an eye out for something.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: rockm on March 04, 2010, 09:20 AM
Steven,

you're looking in the wrong places for drum pots. Skip the typical Tokoname drums and be a little more adventurous:

Bryan Albright and Dan Barton in the UK make outstanding variations of drum pots and rounds. I have a huge grey glazed rivet pot from albright that is one of my favorites.

Ron Lang, Dale Cochoy, Sara Raynor here in the US make excellent non-conformist drums and subtle rounds too.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on March 06, 2010, 07:48 PM
The first 3 I have never heard of. Dale and Sara I have. Met Dale in '08 at the 13th Carolina Bonsai Expo.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2010, 06:03 PM
Here are new pics taken yesterday of this pine. The candles are elongating well. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on April 14, 2010, 06:05 PM
more pics...
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: mcpesq817 on April 15, 2010, 09:50 AM
Nice pine - looks very happy with all that candle growth.  I think with the earlier than normal warm weather, my pines (JBPs, Ponderosas, white) are a few weeks ahead of where they normally are in the growing season, as I've got lots of long candles on my JBPs and white pines, and my ponderosas are going nuts with new growth as well.

I think you're right about the issues you would face about turning this tree into a semi-cascade.  It's too bad that long branch isn't higher up on the trunk.  But otherwise, I think it looks nice with where you are taking the tree now.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on June 26, 2010, 07:42 PM
Ok, before I posted what I did today I will show pics from May 12 2010. Then the candles were getting needles all over. Just keeping this thread in a timeline of how this tree is growing this year.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on June 26, 2010, 07:49 PM
Now here it is today. Since repotting back in Feb I have been feeding aggressively and watering this tree pretty much to get to this point. Today was supposed to be our study group meeting but since other members went to BLC or just did not come to the meeting today I took my pine upto John's and spent time with him. After decandling my JBP I helped John trimming various trees to keep them in a general shape. Also, in a way, I collected a BC(one of several) at the back of his property to mess with. Man, those roots were a pita :o Anyway, 3 pics before decandling coming up  :)
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on June 26, 2010, 07:51 PM
After decandling. I left 2-3 candles on in areas where I want to thicken. Apex, the base of the lower branch and a hidden area that may become another branch. After completing I removed all fert cakes.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: boon on June 27, 2010, 01:35 AM
Steven,
looks great.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on June 27, 2010, 05:56 AM
Thank you Boon. Your compliment means alot :) Your DVDs have helped tremendously. Also the help and advice from John Kirby has helped not only this tree but me as well.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: seth ellwood on June 30, 2010, 11:50 PM
Good progresion thread Steven  I visited john the monday after you were there and we discussed this tree.It has progressed well.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on July 01, 2010, 06:08 AM
Thank you Seth.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: bwaynef on July 01, 2010, 08:28 AM
Steven.

It doesn't look awful








Just kidding.  I like where its headed.  It just needs a little time to get there.  Looks good.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 02, 2010, 05:42 PM
Thought I would show updated pics of this tree. Unfortunately though it is also up for auction on you know where. I have no choice at this time. I'm out of meds I need and have been out of for 3 weeks. No job w/ins, no unemployment benefits I can not afford my meds. I can get another pine(though not exactly like this one) but I can't get another life. Anyway, hope you enjoy the pics at least.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: cbobgo on September 04, 2010, 06:07 PM
I'm sorry to hear about your financial problems.  I'd like to bid on your tree - is it an online auction, or at a show somewhere?

- bob
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 04, 2010, 06:56 PM
It is on ebay. Has 4+ days left on the auction. Title is Large Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Great Stock.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: cbobgo on September 06, 2010, 01:59 PM
If it does not get up to your reserve price give me a PM.

- bob
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 06, 2010, 02:07 PM
OK Bob. Will do.
Title: Re: Newest addition...JBP
Post by: Steven on September 07, 2010, 12:37 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-Japanese-Black-Pine-Bonsai-Great-Stock-/330467997594?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf16d779a (http://cgi.ebay.com/Large-Japanese-Black-Pine-Bonsai-Great-Stock-/330467997594?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf16d779a)

Here's the link if anyones interested.