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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2009, 09:51 AM »
Hi Ty,
Good to see you here. If you are trying to make a small tree with a thicker trunk, growing a tall leader with unfettered growth, you can use these techniques to help develop low branches and a new apex while the tree is still thickening. In these case we don't do as much needle pulling, but you do need to reduce new candle numbers to 2 in the winter. I know this is a bit of a simplistic answer, you also need to let some candles/branches run to thicken and lengthen branches to make them "right" for their position on the tree.

Get a chance to post some pics and we can provide more specific advice.

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2009, 07:23 PM »
Do you think this works for other two needle pines? - I'm thinking Scots.
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2009, 09:40 PM »
hey JK,

thanks for that!

think i made a mistake (perhaps dreadful) with one of my pines -- severed the lion's tail in winter.  should have cut the lion's tail to above its lowest branch to encourage the new leader. it's got a new leader but i suppose i've greatly halted it's growth now.  oh well.  this pine has a small branch, no, shoot, coming out where i want the first branch to be.  but the sacrifice branch is also coming out near it - which is a pain. 

another pineis growing well, the one i referred to in my initial post. it's thickening quite well!  it's got great taper and the nebari looks wonderful!!!  the lower branches have candles on them, but they're only about an inch long at most!

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2009, 09:41 PM »
Jeremy.
Yes, but a little more cautious. On the side, I am thinking about going to he Noeladners Award get together, you know a good hotel nearby?  John
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2009, 09:44 PM »
Ty,
Patiene and post a picture or two. Is sometimes quite easy to figure out "issues" wit a pic. John
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2009, 02:10 PM »
Jeremy.
Yes, but a little more cautious. On the side, I am thinking about going to he Noeladners Award get together, you know a good hotel nearby?  John
Scots - ok.
Noelanders? Very nice, I'm probably going too. I'm afraid I don't know the area at all around Heusden-Zolder . I would travel down from Amsterdam and not stay anyway - it's 175km/110 miles.

I googled - there's a whole load of smaller hotels and B&Bs down there, but nothing in Heusden. It's in the middle of nowhere...http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=hotel&sll=51.012891,5.331116&sspn=0.57974,1.549072&ie=UTF8&hq=hotel&hnear=&z=10


 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2009, 08:38 PM »
Hi Chris,

Thanks once again.

I will follow your Needle Therapy except for the seasonal periods. I will treat the rainy season here as spring and the cool months of December to February as Autumn. I decandled my pines two days ago and  buds are coming out already.

I also don't know how long they are going to stay alive without dormancy, might as well enjoy them while they are with me.

Best regards,
Leo

I'm afraid you won't have any luck with JBP in your climate any more than we would have with Pemphis here, but I do wish you good luck for trying !!

keep it green,
Harry
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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #37 on: November 06, 2009, 10:16 PM »
I'm afraid you won't have any luck with JBP in your climate any more than we would have with Pemphis here, but I do wish you good luck for trying !!

keep it green,
Harry

Hi Harry,

Thanks for wishing me luck. I really enjoy the JBPs that I have and it has been 3 years and  they have given me challenges and joy at the same time. They seem to grow fast starting on the 3rd year and don't seem to be bothered by frequent rain and watering.

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Leo
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2009, 04:55 AM »
hi jk,

this is the jbp that i heavily cut back

http://www.flickr.com/photos/37477597@N02/sets/72157622663326333/
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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2009, 10:52 AM »
It should be fine, just protect it this winter a little bit. Good  luck. John
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #40 on: November 16, 2009, 03:34 AM »
that left branch that moves out of screen then branches into 6 other branch -  should i wait until it thickens before choosing one of them as the leader and then cull the other branches?

suppose i may shock the tree to death with even more cuts..?

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #41 on: November 16, 2009, 07:44 AM »
I would suggest waiting to see what pops back strongly in the spring, then you can reduce to two strong branchlets,

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2009, 07:13 AM »
do you mean next spring, coz it's already spring now in the southern hemisphere?
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2009, 07:46 AM »
Ah, you caught me when I was napping- I would sit on it until you get full candle extension. That could very well be this "spring" for you, but something that you can look at doing around Christmas. Then, take a coupls of pictures from farther back, so we can see the whole tree and the developing candles.  John
 

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Re: Needle Therapy-by Chris Johnston
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2009, 08:43 AM »
do you mean next spring, coz it's already spring now in the southern hemisphere?

Ah, you caught me when I was napping

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