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My nicest JBP
« on: July 01, 2009, 11:01 AM »
I got this tree in the first workshop I took @ the Bonsai Learning Center.  I was pretty pleased with what I got, even though I got to choose 2nd from last (as I was 2nd from last to sign up for the class).

I repotted it out of an appropriately-ish-sized drum-pot this spring into this plastic oil drain pan with some improved drainage (akadama, lava, and sieved gravel).  Several issues conspired against me this year causing me to neglect my trees for about 6 weeks.  I tried to water them, but couldn't do it regularly.  That fact along with the root pruning I did this spring caused this tree to lose one branch.  I actually think it was an improvement, but in facing the discoloration of the branch, I was frantic.  Things seem to have stabilized.

I'm open to suggestions, but unless I'm convinced otherwise, I'll probably hold off on much more work on this one until the fall just to give it a chance to recoop and get used to this pot.
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2009, 02:33 PM »
I like the direction you are going with this.
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2009, 01:09 PM »
Wayne,
I really like this material. It is going to make a wonderful literati tree. It has show-stopping potential.

Chris
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2009, 07:43 AM »
Wayne, your Black Pines look very healthy.
Good job.
Ken
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2009, 09:57 AM »
After repotting this tree this year, I'm a little wary to work it too hard this summer.  It was recommended that instead of decandling it *and* needle-plucking it, I just needle-pluck this year.  I did that earlier this week.  I'll try to get a picture or 2 in the next few days.  Hopefully the needle-plucking doesn't affect the health of this tree too much.

ps.  Ken, I don't care much for traffic on i-26 leaving columbia @ about 5 on weekdays.
pps.  Its odd that this tree is receiving the comments its getting here as it was roundly booed when it was posted a few years ago as being too skinny ...and that I should let low branches (do y'all see any of those) grow freely to fatten the base.  My vision for this tree has always been one of a feminine display.  Not so much a literati as some are calling it.  It doesn't conform to the 6:1 guide, but I think its image is still pleasing.
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2009, 10:24 AM »
Wayne, I think your pine will be fine, it looks so healthy and I am sure You feed it well. From my understanding of pine needle plucking it is done in the fall to promote back budding.
Yea, I-126 and I-26 heading west is no place to at 5:00 pm or going the other way at 8:00 am.
You know as well as I do that You will get all kinds of comments on these forums. 
As Arthur said on another forum the other day " In the end You have to do what You like".
Ken   
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2009, 11:48 AM »
If you aren't going to decandle now, you can pull old needles to limit the amount of growth that your new needles get, and still minimize the stress on the tree. Buds pop now, or you can wait until next spring/summer for them to pop. Generally after a heavy repotting we still decandle, we just are much more careful to leave more old needles when decandling. However, since this tree also received the "insult" of post repotting dehydration on occasion, I would probably agree about not decndling.

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2009, 09:59 AM »
FYI:  she's dead.
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2009, 10:56 AM »
No way...I love that pine :'(

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2009, 12:21 PM »
Sorry to hear.  Do you know the cause?
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2009, 02:04 PM »
Man. This is hard to deal with, I know. I've lost trees I really liked and it never gets any better. You have my sympathies. Have you done a postmortem?

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2009, 10:40 AM »
I may have taken a little too much off the roots this spring, ...plus keeping it in my greenhouse (that stays particularly warm) in an attempt to keep organic fertilizer on it ...or more appropriately, away from my dog.  Couple all this with my inability to provide water on a schedule my trees would have preferred.

I should probably have just left it alone this year after repotting it, but after having the advice corroborated several different times I had no doubts it was okay.  (I'm in no way blaming the advisors by the way.)

This one hurts particularly bad ...as I'm sure you'd guess with the title I gave this thread.  I've learned a great deal from this tree, living and dead though.  I have some stock that will make much nicer trees already, but I'll admit to being a little gun shy about them.  We'll see what happens.
 

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« Reply #12 on: September 09, 2009, 09:33 PM »
Wayne,
I look at this tree and say- how did it die? It has no apparent signs of stress or weakness, is a great color....

When was the picture taken? Did i go straight from bright green to brown (or black?)

I am still stunned,
John
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #13 on: September 10, 2009, 07:03 AM »
Wayne, I am sorry for your loss. I have lost many trees over the years and it never gets any easier.
Ken
 

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Re: My nicest JBP
« Reply #14 on: September 10, 2009, 08:27 AM »
John,
It pretty much went from a healthy green to browning to dead in about 2½-3 weeks.  It had already dropped one significant branch (that I think I mentioned in-thread) earlier this late-spring/early-summer but nothing else looked stressed.  I took those pictures at most a few days before I posted the thread, so check those dates.

Ken, thanks for the ...condolences.

down but not out,