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Sorce

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« Reply #60 on: March 28, 2014, 08:50 AM »
Even Roadside trees, John is trying to make Shari. With his bumper tool.

Really I hope you are not.  ;D
 

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« Reply #61 on: March 28, 2014, 09:56 AM »
Theydin't calloys the samee way, but jepping rhe tree growing strongly works very well

They don't callous the same way, but getting the tree growing strongly works very well.

How'd I do John?  (And if I'm right, how'd you get "jepping" from "getting"?)
 

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« Reply #62 on: March 29, 2014, 08:52 PM »
Small phone, no glasses, big fingers.
 

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« Reply #63 on: April 10, 2014, 02:21 AM »
ONe of my friends just returned from Japan, he told me a funny thing, the japanese don't repot pines as frequently as "most" of the western world does. He told me that they don't repot pines for 5 years, or much more even up to 20 years, to let the soil mature and keep the tree growing strong. How often do you guys repot your pines?

Mr John Kirby, Owen, Mr Adair ?

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« Reply #64 on: April 10, 2014, 09:13 AM »
Herman, for us plebes, one of the differences will be that we're dealing with MUCH younger material.  While we may still be guilty of ...over-repotting our young material, most folks here with older material do manage to go significantly longer between repottings.
 

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« Reply #65 on: April 10, 2014, 09:14 AM »
I know that Daniel Robinson doesn't repot his pines... like ever.  Course his are older trees.
 

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« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2014, 08:59 AM »
I wouldn 't let Dan's repotting practices become part of the conversation. He also doesn't style many of his old trees.
 

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« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2014, 09:58 AM »
Hi guys,

so, of course the age of the pine would play a factor in how frequently it is repotted? wouldn't it slow growth down if a young tree is repotted on a 2 year cycle? most of my black pines are under 15 years old, and every time I've repotted them it has slowed them down considerably for that growing season, only regaining the lost vigor in the second growing season after repotting. Wouldnt it speed up developement, if a pine in developement has 4-6 years of uninterupted growth before repotting it? certainly this would mean that the soil mix should not break down for a very long time....

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« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2014, 07:49 PM »
herman, yes only reason to do a 2 yer cycle on pines is first two repots getting rid of field soil half at a time.

 after that reasons to repot:

 a loss of percolation > in which case refreshing the surface layer is step one
 you want to change style/ angle
 decomposition > oxygen to h20 balance is h20 heavy


cheers, Jason

 




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« Reply #69 on: April 18, 2014, 10:14 PM »
I am in the middle of repotting pines, most haven 't been repotted for at least 6 years, one 9 years. Funny thing is, despite the warnings of the turface crowd, the Akadama is in good shape.... And thse trees spent years in rapid, repeated , freeze-thaw cycles in NW Arkansas and here in the Connecticut deep freeze. Boon and I repotted for a week, I have another 20 or so older pines to do, then about 100 from Colanders to bigger colanders.
 

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« Reply #70 on: April 19, 2014, 06:11 PM »
I'm of the opinion that lower quality Akadama (as in turns into powder when pressed) is a issue.  The "dragon blend" labeled as Super Hard that was cooked to 300 F seems to be clumps of powder  :-\.  A few bags I've used were fine but many seemed sketchy. 

I've seen about 20 different mixes used for bonsai in the Midwest, Southeast, and New England this repotting season and the healthiest trees were in a free-draining mix.  This I feel is due to last year's nearly consistent wet weather.  Take that as you like. 
 

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« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2014, 10:14 PM »
Next year, I'll repot this tree to get the front oriented correctly in the pot. I'll also be raising it a little. I purposely potted it a little deep when I moved it out of the Anderson flat. It will make the trunk appear even broader at the bottom!

To help heal the scars, I've applied the clay type cut paste. I did some carving of the heartwood so the calous can grow over without creating a bulge. Growing a strong apex leader will also help heal old wounds. I'm going to let the apex run untouched. The side sacrifice, the old one, will be pinched back. I need to force the tree to shift its energy away from this old sacrifice branch to the other parts of the tree.
 

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« Reply #72 on: April 23, 2014, 02:00 AM »
Sorry for hijacking the thread :)

this will be an awesome tree Adair! thanks for all the tips and advice! Keep us posted on this tree's developement.

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« Reply #73 on: April 23, 2014, 08:10 AM »
No problem, Herman.

I should go out an take a picture today to record the progress.  It's a strange looking bird right now.  Some candles on the sacrifice branches and branches I'm growing out for possible future approach grafts have long needles and long candles ( 4 inch needles, 6 inch and extending candles, long internodes).  Areas that I've decandled in the past, so there's much more ramification, have short needles and short candles (1.5 inch needles 1 inch candles, short internodes).

Boon says I can decandle the approach graft branches this year.  So, that will help.
 

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« Reply #74 on: April 24, 2014, 08:40 PM »
That is a massive trunk! I can't wait to see what it looks like in a couple of years. I have many years of growing to get there but I'm glad to know that 15 foot sacrifice branches can be grown while maintaining lower growth. Thanks for sharing your tree.  :)

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