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John Kirby

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #30 on: December 10, 2012, 10:12 PM »
Johnnie's pors had beentreated with linseed oil. Dishwasher.......
 

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« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2012, 09:32 AM »
Boon is going to be judging this year's Atlanta Bonsai Society show in May in 2013.  I'm sure he will have a workshop, so I'll bring this tree the workshop.

Meanwhile, I'll continue to look for a pot, and do the regular fall maintenance on it.

 

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« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2012, 12:30 PM »
Adair, he has a good pot for you, I will take a picture and measure for you. It is a very nice quality Chinese pot, males a great value. If you decide you don't want it I can use it.
 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2012, 01:13 PM »
Darn nice of you John to help out Adair.
 

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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2012, 02:35 PM »
Shared teacher, I am obliged.
 

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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2012, 02:38 PM »
Thanks, John!  I'm looking forward to it!

I owe you a beer!
 

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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2014, 10:17 PM »
How's this one coming along Adair?
 

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« Reply #37 on: March 24, 2014, 08:00 AM »
Jason,

It's doing great. I need to update the thread with more recent pictures.

Meanwhile, I'll tell you what had happened:

Boon indeed had a nice pot, and I did manage to get it in my bag, and it arrived in perfect condition. When I repotted it, I found that it was in mostly pumice, and had a lot of fine roots. Probably the best nebari I've ever seen from "stock" material. I used Boon Mix.

Boon came for the Atlanta Bonsai show, and changed the front. Rotated it 1/4 turn to the right. Doing this moved the large pruning scar to the back, and turns the deep nebari that was in the back more to the side where it works better. It also makes the first branch the "back" branch. That's why I hadn't considered doing this before.

Boon then proceeds to approach graft a new first branch. He took advantage of the callous area of the big pruning scar. Those graft easily.

Changing the front, and grafting on a new branch radically changed my perception. And it opened up a new perspective of bonsai design for me. Before, I had been constrained by where the branches were already located on the tree. Now that I've learned to graft, new possibilities are available...

Took the tree home and studied it from this new perspective, and decided another branch could be grafted on, just below the big sacrifice branch. Peter Tea was coming for a workshop next month, so he and I did that one.

Oh, the sacrifice branch... Boon made a V cut about half way thru it. We then filled it with cut paste. The idea is leaving it half cut will allow the trunk section below the cut to reroute to the needles, and not die back. Next year, cut back some more, and remove in third year.

So Peter and I did another approach graft. Unfortunately, this one did not take. I think it got damaged by strong winds from a storm. So, I redid it with another branch, and it appears to have taken.

I wired the tree last fall.

Boon was doing privates with a friend in North Carolina last week, so I took the tree up for him to review. He did minor adjustments to my styling, and shaved off some bark above the approach graft to weaken the section before the graft to make the new branch use the graft union for its nourishment. I have strong candles coming from that new branch!

I will repot the tree to get it oriented properly in the pot next year.

Stay tuned, I'll go out and take pictures.
 

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« Reply #38 on: March 24, 2014, 08:30 AM »
As promised, pictures!  No guarantee they will be oriented properly, they're from my iPhone.

The first is the old front.

The second is the new front. There is a back branch on the inside of the curve, which will have to be removed at some point. For now, it is supplying a branch I'm approach grafting.
 

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« Reply #39 on: March 24, 2014, 11:10 AM »
Very nice
 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #40 on: March 25, 2014, 03:27 AM »
damn! gotta love that trunk!!!! :o. can you maybe post me one like that :D hahahaha

congrats

ps. do you have enough branches on it to choose from or will you have to graft some on? I still need some material that i can teach myself to graft on...

best regards
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« Reply #41 on: March 25, 2014, 10:14 AM »
Herman, the question is not "are there enough branches", the question is "are there branches in the right place?"

I'm currently grafting two, and there are several branches that are just very small that I will be letting grow to become larger branches. The biggest branch on the tree is the "back" branch. I've wired it out, and as it back buds, I'll be shortening it.

There's a strong leader at the apex I need to let run for a couple more years. But right at the base of it there's a small branch that will eventually be the true apex.

It's still got a lot of growing ahead of it.
 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #42 on: March 25, 2014, 11:48 AM »
I know this might sound rude to the weak at hart but may I ask how much you would pay for something of the stature . No one ever talks about costs in this study group. I am not being cheeky, how will one ever learn that, when you spend the money you gain a huge advantage in both time and in the long term ,costs. Better to save a little money up and do the deed, than buy 10 trees, and grow them out for 10 or15 years and still have take the chance at finished material .
Qualicum Brian
 

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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2014, 07:30 PM »
Gaffer,

It was about $1,500 delivered. The pot, another $400.

It will worth about 10 times that in 5 years when the branches are in and rammified.

The nebari is 12 to 13 inches wide. The apex candle (not the sacrifice apex) is about 9.5 inches above the soil line.

Can you say, "sumo?"   Sure, I knew you could!
 

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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2014, 08:25 PM »
Thanks Adair for the update, and the info about development procedures.
It's looking good.