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Adair M

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My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« on: December 05, 2012, 04:30 PM »
I haven't done a thing to it, except admire it, and try to determine whether I should try to make it into an informal upright by developing an axex over the center of the trunk, or let it be a slant by developing the apex over to the right.

Loads of potential with this one!

 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 04:53 PM »
Nice material.  Where did you acquire it?
 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 05:30 PM »
And a good victim it is !

got it all- bark, girth, movement, branching

congrats

big D

Like to see some other views, for possible fronts and designs...if you are willing   ;)
 

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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2012, 07:57 PM »
All right Adair!  Now that's one hell of a tree!  Looking forward to seeing your 'next move' ;-)

 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2012, 01:36 AM »
Holy crap...where do you guys find raw material like that, its so unfair!

I don't get the formal upright though, its got a bit of a bend in the trunk.
It already looks moyogi to me? Its not really slanting so much as it has movement in the trunk...
But then again...what do I know, right...
 

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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2012, 02:02 AM »
You would be correct if he said formal upright but he said informal. I would go with an informal upright as you optioned at least until I see more views. Is this a teleperion farms tree?
 

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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2012, 02:07 AM »
Can somebody please tell me if it's even possible to get flare like that with out significant lateral root work? I'm assuming though field grown they must have limited vertical roots it pruned them several times during this trees development
 

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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2012, 09:22 AM »
Gets planted over a flat object like a tile in the ground...would defeat the purpose to do rootwork every few years if it is being field grown...would slow it down
 

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« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2012, 12:05 PM »
Gets planted over a flat object like a tile in the ground...would defeat the purpose to do rootwork every few years if it is being field grown...would slow it down

Are you speaking from personal experience?  If you wouldn't mind posting pictures, I would love to see some of your JBP developed in this way.
 

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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2012, 05:56 PM »
Was planted in a growing bed, came out two years ago, nearly trippled its trunk diameter...anyhow...

 :-\ will not be coming here anymore...had enough now... 
 

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Re: My next victim... er... Project! Yeah, that's what I meant!
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2012, 07:31 PM »
thanks the pic herman nice
 

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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2012, 07:32 PM »
sorry thank you for the picture. what a fat trunk
 

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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2012, 07:43 PM »
Um, ok.

Adair, this looks like a Lone Pine Nursery tree.  Might you know where this one was grown?
 

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2012, 10:07 PM »
Um, ok.

Adair, this looks like a Lone Pine Nursery tree.  Might you know where this one was grown?

Yes please divulge where you got this
 

Adair M

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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2012, 11:52 PM »
Matsu,

I got this beauty from Chris at Telperion Farms.

I ordered it before I went to Boons Intensive because I knew after I went there I would be unhappy with my material.

I'm glad I did.

I'll get more pics up. The side shown is going to be the front.  The problem is the trunk is thick!  (I know what you're thinking. Of course the trunk is thick!). What I mean is the trunk is even thicker on the backside of the tree. Which means i will need a wide pot.   Front to back, the nebari is 13 inches. All the pots at my local shop that had that depth were huge!  And deep. (Height).  Which took away from the trunk, in my eye.

I've searched some Japanese sites, and they have wide pots that would not be as tall, which is what I think I need. Of course, they're expensive, and shipping virtually doubles the price!

I'm going to be leading a workshop next week at  the bonsai shop on pines, and I'm going to use this tree as part of that. It was decandled last summer, and many of the new buds have 4, 5, or even 6 new summer candles, which should be reduced to two. (As we all know). I will demonstrate that, and a little basic wiring.

I'm taking the potting Intensive at the end of January. I'll pot this one soon after that. So, I need to order a pot from Japan because it might take a couple of months for shipping.