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Buffrider

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My New JBP
« on: August 21, 2011, 08:10 PM »
ok got this one in june. I decandled it at the proper time and now am looking for direction. Where do yall see this guy going?
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2011, 08:53 PM »
the top with the chop scar.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2011, 09:42 AM »
Any chance of some larger pictures?
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2011, 03:16 PM »
Nice trunk movement. Are you planning to use one of those heavier top branches for the apex?
 

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2011, 07:44 PM »
Fertilize and let it grow. YOu need to get a bunch of new growth to get the tree strong and ready for the work you want to do. I'll bet you got this from T-Town Bonsai here. I recognize the soil, err rocks.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2011, 08:21 PM »
Fertilize and let it grow. YOu need to get a bunch of new growth to get the tree strong and ready for the work you want to do. I'll bet you got this from T-Town Bonsai here. I recognize the soil, err rocks.


yea i did and its called haydite..... its the bestest..... lol. Well do yall see potential in this. A guy on another forum said that this will never be anything good.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2011, 12:09 AM »
.... A guy on another forum said that this will never be anything good.

Gotta disagree with whoever it is. You may have to put more time and thought into this tree than you would into some other, but you can find a design to bring out its strengths. To begin with, it's got some good trunk movement; start there in your thinking, I would say.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2011, 03:34 AM »
Buff,
I see the critical comments on the other forum - but also some good constructive advice as well. And you will be hearing more of this. You and your young pine will both develop nicely over the years. Time is the big issue, the patience thing, and what you do with it.
Nice tree for starters. Grow it well.
You've got good people here to help you out.
Tom
 

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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2011, 08:21 AM »
Fertilize well and let it grow. I would get it into a little better bonsai soil over the next 2-3 years- do 1/2 at a time. The Boon video on repotting will help. Just to let you know, I have had a couple of hundred of these little trees from Frank, so my suggestions come from some little experience. The soil does well to get them established, then you need to shift them to 100% inorganic and a good bit smaller particle size.

You can get a good tree out of this, will take some time, but all good things do.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2011, 04:08 PM »
John, how much smaller are you recommending when it comes to particle size? (In millimeters, if you can, please.)
 

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2011, 08:06 PM »
Hmm, about half or so.;-}
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2011, 10:49 AM »
John,  Boons soil mix says he uses 1/16-1/4" for low mountain conifers like a JBP.  That soil looks to fall within that range.  Am I missing something?
 

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2011, 12:06 PM »
Um, I can place the two soils side byside and they are not the same size. That size tree needs a smaller maximum particle size. It will also benefit from the akadama which will give the root tips places to colonize. I haved used many dozens of Yards of haydite, is a good component. For this tree the particle size is too large.

If you want to see it in person, sign up for a winter intensive with Boon. There you can see it up close and personal.
 

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Re: My New JBP
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2011, 11:28 AM »
John, so sorry, I forgot to hit the email notification so this got lost.   So what you are saying is the smaller the tree is, the smaller the particle size should be?  I just read last night that you use 1/4"-1/2" for the main mix for your large Ponderosa Pines, and 1/8"-1/4" for top dressing.  Just trying to get an idea of sizing soil particles to trees of different sizes.

Thanks!
Chris
 

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2011, 12:10 PM »
Yep, smaller trees will have finer root systems in general, so need a finer mix- yet still loose, moisture retentive yet rapidly draining. John