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woodstock

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Unknown Pine
« on: January 27, 2011, 05:51 PM »
I'm relatively new at Bonsai. I have only been practicing it for a couple years now...and have absolutely no experience or knowledge of pines. But I purchased this one from my local nursery last year. It was setting over by a compost heap by itself. I asked the sales person about it and she said it was purchased just to see if it would survive in this area..I'm not really sure what that meant but she did tell me that she had no idea what kind of pine it was. Then she offered to sell it to me for $15.00 so needless to say It came home with me. The pot was falling apart so I put it in this large pot to let it have room for the root system to grow. Now that the sun has all but destroyed this pot  it will have to be repotted again this year. All I know is that it is a 2 needle of some kind and that it is also a graft. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I know nothing about the styling...care or maintainance of this tree but it seems to have potential.
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 08:37 PM »
I think you probably have some unusual cultivar, one that can only be reliably reproduced by grafting. Very likely that the rootstock is JBP; that species is known for being tough and vigorous.

You have a tree with some lanky internodes, Woodstock. Unless you decide on a bunjin, it's going to hard to develop a credible image in less than a decade or two. (Seriously.)

What I would do, within the next year or two, is cut it down to the red-orange line, and develop your bonsai from what's below that line. I know that seems impossibly drastic (been there, done that,) but in the end you'll get a better bonsai.
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 10:46 AM »
There's a good chance it's Pinus contorta contorta ( shore pine) The trade in the west usually use Pinus sylvestris (scots pine) as the stock.
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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 03:02 PM »
IF chopping it off at the red line is the solution for this tree would it be possible or worth the effort to try to air layer it above the red line to try to use the top part  for another tree in the future.?
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 03:27 PM »
No, just chop and run.
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 07:18 PM »
what is the best time of year to make the chop on thid guy.?
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2011, 08:01 PM »
what is the best time of year to make the chop on thid guy.?

I would do it before it breaks dormancy. I'd use a cut paste, too, but maybe that's just me.
 

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Re: Unknown Pine
« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2011, 10:09 AM »
I want to thank everyone for their replies. I will chop this guy in the next day or so.