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Kajukid
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« on: June 11, 2013, 08:43 PM »
Thought this was cool. Never seen that many pine cones in one area before
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Leo in NE Illinois
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2013, 12:10 PM »
Those are most likely all male flowers, will produce lots of pollen, then dry up and fall off. Female flowers are larger, same shape as the mature pine cone, and are generally few in number. Because candles with lots of male flowers tend to be really elongated, leggy, most people remove the entire candle if the tree is healthy enough. But if you want to see the whole progression, keep it. Cut it off when you do your pruning & styling work.
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Kajukid
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2013, 09:30 PM »
It's not my tree. I seen it at a nursery and I do believe those are pine cones but I could be wrong. I just know that they look like that.
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Herman
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2013, 11:36 PM »
Quote from: Leo in NE Illinois on June 12, 2013, 12:10 PM
Those are most likely all male flowers, will produce lots of pollen, then dry up and fall off. Female flowers are larger, same shape as the mature pine cone, and are generally few in number. Because candles with lots of male flowers tend to be really elongated, leggy, most people remove the entire candle if the tree is healthy enough. But if you want to see the whole progression, keep it. Cut it off when you do your pruning & styling work.

those are baby pine cones, if you enlarge the photo you can see the minute scales.

anyway...WoW! what a lot of cones in one place, ive only ever seen 3 or 4 grouped together

Herman
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Adair M
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« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 07:41 AM »
Herman, how are you doing?  Did any of those airlayers take?

Those are male pollen cones.  When they are immature, they do look like little pine cones, but as they extend a little more (to be about 3/4 inch) they turn yellow, and then brown.  The male pollen cones are formed at the base of the candle, as these in the picture are.  Female pine cones are formed on the terminal tip.  Female pine cones are what we consider "pine cones" and will hang on to the tree for several years until they develop seeds and fall off.

The male cones a merely a nuisance.  You can remove them if you like, but they will fall off on their own after a month or so.  Female cones are persistent, and draw considerable energy from the plant.  These should be removed.
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« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 08:55 AM »
Hard to tell, but from the picture they definitely look like cones.  You can see the male flowers on growth in the back.  Quite a bit different in shape and color.

Female cones at the base have been known to happen, http://bonsaitonight.com/tag/pine-cones/.
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Herman
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« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 11:26 PM »
Quote from: Adair M on July 11, 2013, 07:41 AM
Herman, how are you doing?  Did any of those airlayers take?


Hello Adair!  Smiley

yes my friend! im glad to report that out of the 5 layers 4 made it. i'll update my thread and post some ideas i thought up about the styling of the mother plant... ive found something interesting as well that i can report on  Shocked

its just been a bit hectic with adjusting to the new job...get up 3 hours before sunrise ... and i get home just before dark

but im good haha, how you doin' ?

Herman
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Adair M
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2013, 08:44 AM »
Herman,

Glad to hear of your success with the JBP airlayers!

I've now completed 3 Intensives with Boon.  My goal for the next year is to become a competent JBP grafter.  Approach grafts and scion grafts.  Being able to graft means always having branches where you want them!

Cheers!
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Herman
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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2013, 11:13 PM »
i need to learn how to graft as well  Undecided.  good luck with that Adair! if you get it right you must try and teach me how to do it. my material would benefit greatly from grafting.
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