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Species Specific => Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: Leo de Leon on February 08, 2012, 12:46 AM

Title: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on February 08, 2012, 12:46 AM
Please advise if this stone is suitable for JBP. Thanks
Leo
Manila Philippines
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on February 08, 2012, 12:47 AM
Height is about 2.5 feet
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: mlogan37 on February 09, 2012, 07:27 AM
My opinion is it would work visually, that a nice chunk of rock you have there.  Structurally, and I say this only because I have played with a lot of limestone rocks in Florida, it may not be the most durable of rocks.  Horticultarily, I will defer to the more seasoned and talented artist on this forum. ;D
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on February 10, 2012, 01:58 AM
Thank you Mlogan for your reply.
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Larry Gockley on February 10, 2012, 12:08 PM
Hi Leo. The rock is very nice indeed. Is your concern about limestone maybe being too soft, or is your concern about the PH of limestone having an adverse affect on black pine? I have never planted a BP in limestone, however I have planted Texas Ebony, and ficus in a limestone, with no obvious ill effects. Larry
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: bwaynef on February 10, 2012, 01:56 PM
From http://hort.ufl.edu/database/documents/pdf/tree_fact_sheets/pinthua.pdf (http://hort.ufl.edu/database/documents/pdf/tree_fact_sheets/pinthua.pdf)
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Soil tolerances: clay; loam; sand; acidic; alkaline;
well-drained

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The plant tolerates dry, sandy soil and is
extremely salt tolerant, being used successfully along
beach front property in the full sun. It also grows well
in clay soil with a pH of 8.0.

From http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/syllabi/206/.../HORT306PlantList8.pdf (http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/syllabi/206/.../HORT306PlantList8.pdf)
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Fair heat, drought, salt, & high pH soil
tolerance, but needs good drainage
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on February 18, 2012, 08:37 PM
Thank you Larry and bwanef,

I decided to plant a ficus retusa instead. I am afraid that the limestone is not structurally sound for long term use.
I attached a picture

Best regards,
leo
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: tmmason10 on February 19, 2012, 06:01 PM
That is a great looking start, thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on March 01, 2012, 04:23 AM
Thanks TMmason
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: nathanbs on March 01, 2012, 10:02 AM
looks awesome! Can i suggest the branch that is wired and looping up and over the trunk to maybe be looped the other war and under the trunk? Or wait for a better bud location which is bound to happen on a ficus
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: Leo de Leon on March 06, 2012, 07:36 AM
Hi Nathan

I am fusing this branch to the main trunk. and later cut the loop off. Thank you for your comment, maybe it is better if i tried to fuse it at the back.
Best regards,
leo
Title: Re: Limestone for black pine?
Post by: nathanbs on March 06, 2012, 10:12 AM
ohh gotcha makes sense.