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Rkovo

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jbp emergency!!!
« on: November 25, 2012, 12:46 AM »
I bought a jbp this summer from a guy who was downsizing his collection
it is shohin or at least has the potential to be a good one. i did a little work over the summer creating a new leader and decandling what i believe to be the first time. it responsed well and i have lots of new shoots to work with. my problem is that the tree is in not good soil, it looks mostly broken down organic some form of loose potting soil. i think it may be suffering from root rot.i am beginning to lose smaller backbuds which shriveling and dying and i think i have lost a lower branch. the rest of the tree is green.
I live in the San Francisco north bay and we have had wet one week heat the next. should i do an emergency repot now or just try to keep the soil way dryer during this winter and repot first thing spring.
and i have heard mixed things about what to repot in such an emergency;
course river sand?
100% akadama?
Boon's mix? or if anyone is familiar with Grove Way nursery in Hayward, the great guy who owns it, has a fantastic mix
100% pumice

Im sorry there are no pictures, i took pics but for whatever reason i cant seem to post them on this forum?

 

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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 08:14 AM »
I've been to Groves Way, with Boon.  You're right, he's a very nice guy.

If you are going to repot, I'd certainly go with Boon's mix.

Next, since you are in SanFrancisco, I'd take it to Boon, and let him work with you on it.
 

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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 10:11 AM »
Johnny is an extremely nice guy, though his trees are not the most healthy I've seen.

In the Bay Area you can start repotting as early as December.  I would certainly reach out to those in your area that can help evaluate in person.
 

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Re: jbp emergency!!!
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 12:39 PM »
I would love to take the tree to Boon, but unfortunetly I cannot afford any of his services, I am hoping to be able to take his intensives one day, but there is no way for me pay for them now.

So Matsu, if I understand correctly I may be able to get away with waiting until December and repotting them, while accessing the damage?

I am a member of Marin Bonsai Club, but the tuesday meetings are tough for me to make because I work tuesday nights
 

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« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2012, 12:47 PM »
You could always join BIB.

Hard to say without seeing the tree in person. Got any pics?  Maybe Jeremiah will chime in and offer in-person advice.
 

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2012, 12:49 PM »
I've been doing some repotting already, waiting another week for December to start woould just be another week of decline for your tree.  Go ahead and repot it now into a good free draining mix.

- bob
 

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2012, 03:11 PM »
You seem to be nervous about the health of the tree.  I would still advise that you reach out to someone in your area for help.  Perhaps Bob would be willing to help?
 

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2012, 03:16 PM »
Also, if you're having trouble posting photos, please check out this post.
 

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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2012, 04:28 PM »
Good suggestion Matsu.  I'm actually going to be driving up to Brent's on Friday, I could stop in Marin and take a look at your tree if like.

- bob
 

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Re: jbp emergency!!!
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2012, 07:19 PM »
YOU GUYS SEEM TO BE VERY HELPFEL TO THIS GY MAYBE BECAUSE HE IS IN WEST COAST?
 

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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2012, 08:24 PM »
Hmm, not sure why you're yelling.  Helping people is kind of what we do here.  If he were close to me I would be more than happy to invite him out to a local study group meeting.
 

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2012, 08:33 PM »
Thanks Matsu!
 
I would if you weren't a ways away.
 
Bob, thank you for the offer and that would be great, but i do not want to impose.

The more I think on it and research the more I feel that I will probably do a fast repot if the weather holds tomorrow.
 

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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2012, 09:49 PM »
"a fast repot." I guess that means that you aren't going to bareroot the front half of the tree, all the way up under the base. Slip potting or dilly-dallying around the roots aren't going to fix the root rot problem. You really need to get in there and open up the roots for growth. And don't forget to tie the tree in good and snug to protect the new roots once they start growing.

Go see Gremel, I think he may still be leading a study group in Sepastapol
 

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2012, 09:56 PM »
Jay, check your post, you will see the advice was the same, one was to go see Matsu when he does his repotting workshop, the other was to contact Gary Wood, a really knowledgeable bonsai guy. This post is different because he lives within 50 miles of a lot of Bonsai expertise, and it doesn't make much sense to try and stumble through something you can be taught fairly easily. Take care.
 

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« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2012, 10:13 PM »
Rkovo, it would be no imposition.  It's pretty much on my way up to Brent's.

Taking it to a Gremel workshop would be good too, I'm not sure if he is having one this weekend or not.

- bob