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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2015, 08:28 AM »
I agree.  This is an improvement.  This might not be its final orientation, planting angle, bend, but you have a clear direction now.
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2015, 09:19 AM »
Thanks so much

I definitely agree that it is moving in the right direction.

Lets see how we will progress on this come spring
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2015, 03:31 PM »
Before you attempt a windswept bonsai, you prolly ought to look at pictures of good windswept bonsai:  https://www.google.com/search?q=windswept+bonsai&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=SpjKVP-GH8mxggSN-oCwAg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=602&dpr=1.25
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2015, 03:21 AM »
Definitely some great inspiration there.

Thanks for that.

Lets see how we can evolve this come spring.
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2015, 09:25 AM »
HELP!!!! HELP!!!

My JBP is dying.  What do I do (except praying because I am doing that already)
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #20 on: February 16, 2015, 01:49 AM »
Hey Dorian,

I'm going to throw this out there; i see that no needles has turned yellow or stayed green but dried up completely, these are signs of over-watering. The needles on your tree browned up and dried out, which leads me to believe the tree is suffering from too under-watering, my advice would be to put it in a place where it would only receive a few hours of direct sunlight a day and stays relatively cool, water it sparingly to avoid flooding the drought damaged roots but keep it slightly moist. Might be the heat wave we had the last few days last week, might have forgot to water the tree more, 38 Celcius with very low humidity is like an oven for these trees, I had to water my trees 2-3 times a day depending on the soil mix said trees were planted in

May I ask what soil mix this black pine is planted in?

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« Last Edit: February 16, 2015, 01:54 AM by Herman »
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #21 on: February 16, 2015, 02:03 AM »
Hi Herman

Thanks for all the advice.

It is in a bonsai soil mix that I buy from the local bonsai nursery down the road.  It has always grown in there and has actually always been happy.

It has been standing in the direct sun and now all the needles are brown and falling off.  I think with me doing bending on it again and re potting it, it may have been too much of a shock for it.

The brack at the base of the tree is still green so I am hoping it will pull through.  Well praying is more like it.  I will move it to a spot that only gets the morning sun.

Keeping fingers crossed.
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #22 on: February 16, 2015, 02:18 AM »
When did you repot the tree?
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #23 on: February 16, 2015, 02:31 AM »
At the end of January when I did the changes on the bending.

I had to re pot it to change the angle.

In Hind site I should of left it till spring.  :'(
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #24 on: February 16, 2015, 02:54 AM »
Yes re-potting a tree in the hottest part of summer would do that...serias, get that baby in the shade and give it some tlc. Pines are difficult...especially in our African climate...

do you have other black pines?


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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2015, 07:08 AM »
Hi Herman

Thanks again for all the advice.

I have one more JBP.  I planted 10 seeds years ago and got 2 to take.  One is dying now and here is the other.

Still want to start a thread on where to next with this.

 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2015, 01:58 AM »
that bud on the bottom of the trunk is golden!!! use that as your future trunk line in a few years when it has become strong enough, use the rest as sacrifice growth to beef the trunk up. Well that's just one way of doing it, I like the bends you put into the trunk.

You practically have a blank canvas with a very good start in terms of trunk movement, you can go tall literati, semi cascade, cascade, informal upright, slanting.....  ;D

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2015, 02:07 AM »
Thanks so much Herman

I never thought of it in that way.

Do you think I should re-pot it come spring into a much larger growing pot?
 

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2015, 02:35 AM »
either that or into your garden for some field growing :D

have you ever tried to air-layer a black pine? its fairly easy :)

I get more than 60% success rates

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Re: JBP 2 - Windswept style
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2015, 03:09 AM »
Hi Dorian & Herman,

The needles on your tree look a lot like mine ( see pic attached).  Do you have tine yellow or brown spots onthe needles? Or tiny droplets of ( look like) resin on the brown part?  Are only last years needles damaged?  Dont you think this is cast?  I have been spraying with Bravo and removed most damaged needles and the trees seem to recover slowly (and as Herman said, a few hours sun in the morning but no more).

My trees have been dealing with very high temparatures ( well in the 40's) and wind which i initially thought causes the brown tips.  But my needles turned brown in spring when temperatures are still moderate ( but fungus' are very active)

The real prblem starts if your current growth dries out... The tree will die if it is not already dead. 

Planting into bigger pots? Be careful with that - pines root groth is slowly. Your soil ( the organic part) will decompose much quicker than the roots will make use of it. You will end up with a mean soil fungus ( like me) which really sucks!

That at least is my experience - not sure how much its worth seeing the wealth of knowledge in this forum...
« Last Edit: February 18, 2015, 03:12 AM by Kent2106 »