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Species Specific => Japanese Black Pine Bonsai Discussion => Topic started by: BONSAI_OUTLAW on March 16, 2011, 10:51 PM

Title: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: BONSAI_OUTLAW on March 16, 2011, 10:51 PM
I am looking for a little more information about this particular JBP cultivar.  I ordered the seeds tonight and so far I have only read that they are "grown for their upright style and shorter needles." 

Thanks.
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: bwaynef on March 17, 2011, 08:22 AM
I'd think, if its a true cultivar, seeds would NOT be the way to reliably reproduce those traits. 
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: mcpesq817 on March 17, 2011, 10:06 AM
I bought a Sanshu variety from Meehan's a few years ago.  The needle color seemed a bit lighter than standard JBPs, and probably a little more dense growth.  It had a thin trunk so I planted it in the yard and it seems pretty vigorous.  Beyond that, there's not much more I can say when it comes to unique traits.
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: BONSAI_OUTLAW on March 17, 2011, 11:49 AM
I ordered the seeds from Dallas Bonsai.  That is ThomasJ right?  I wonder if he ever stops by here... If so maybe he knows more about them.  Thanks guys.  From what I am hearing so far these are going to be a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: BONSAI_OUTLAW on May 12, 2011, 12:48 PM
They are sprouting.  I can't wait to cut 'em. 

I am however, a little disappointed.  I was reading at a different forum that these should not be any different than any of the other JBP I have according to Al Keppler. 

I also saw there that he said that only a few would ever make good bonsai.  I am curious as to what percentage will make good bonsai.
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: bonsaikc on May 18, 2011, 05:19 PM
The Japanese cut thousands of these seedlings to get a few really good bonsai. The rest they ship to the U.S.  ;D
Title: Re: Japanese Black Pine - Sanshu
Post by: MatsuBonsai on May 18, 2011, 06:33 PM
Jase,

I think the question was whether or not Sanshu is true to seed.  It's my understanding that some JBP are more readily/easily reproduced from seed than others.  Looking for seeds/cones from good parent trees that exhibit the bark/needle characteristics you're looking for is the real trick.

Dallas Bonsai is run by Fred Meyer.